linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec

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Message-ID: <20121123110808.GA3002@host-192-168-1-59.local.net-space.pl>
Date:	Fri, 23 Nov 2012 12:08:08 +0100
From:	Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@...cle.com>
To:	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@...e.com>
Cc:	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@...rix.com>,
	"x86@...nel.org" <x86@...nel.org>,
	"tglx@...utronix.de" <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	"kexec@...ts.infradead.org" <kexec@...ts.infradead.org>,
	"virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org" 
	<virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	"xen-devel@...ts.xensource.com" <xen-devel@...ts.xensource.com>,
	"konrad.wilk@...cle.com" <konrad.wilk@...cle.com>,
	"mingo@...hat.com" <mingo@...hat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct

On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:51:55AM +0000, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >>> On 23.11.12 at 11:37, Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@...cle.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:53:37AM +0000, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >> >>> On 23.11.12 at 02:56, Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@...rix.com> wrote:
> >> > On 23/11/2012 01:38, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> >> >> I still don't really get why it can't be isolated from dom0, which would
> >> > make more sense to me, even for a Xen crash.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > The crash region (as specified by crashkernel= on the Xen command line)
> >> > is isolated from dom0.
> >> >
> >> > dom0 (using the kexec utility etc) has the task of locating the Xen
> >> > crash notes (using the kexec hypercall interface), constructing a binary
> >> > blob containing kernel, initram and gubbins, and asking Xen to put this
> >> > blob in the crash region (again, using the kexec hypercall interface).
> >> >
> >> > I do not see how this is very much different from the native case
> >> > currently (although please correct me if I am misinformed).  Linux has
> >> > extra work to do by populating /proc/iomem with the Xen crash regions
> >> > boot (so the kexec utility can reference their physical addresses when
> >> > constructing the blob), and should just act as a conduit between the
> >> > kexec system call and the kexec hypercall to load the blob.
> >>
> >> But all of this _could_ be done completely independent of the
> >> Dom0 kernel's kexec infrastructure (i.e. fully from user space,
> >> invoking the necessary hypercalls through the privcmd driver).
> >
> > No, this is impossible. kexec/kdump image lives in dom0 kernel memory
> > until execution. That is why privcmd driver itself is not a solution
> > in this case.
>
> Even if so, there's no fundamental reason why that kernel image
> can't be put into Xen controlled space instead.

Yep, but we must change Xen kexec interface and/or its behavior first.
If we take that option then we could also move almost all needed things
from dom0 kernel to Xen. This way we could simplify Linux Kernel
kexec/kdump infrastructure needed to run on Xen.

Daniel
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