linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Message-ID: <50AEBF86.50501@citrix.com>
Date:	Fri, 23 Nov 2012 00:12:54 +0000
From:	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@...rix.com>
To:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
CC:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@...cle.com>,
	"jbeulich@...e.com" <jbeulich@...e.com>,
	"konrad.wilk@...cle.com" <konrad.wilk@...cle.com>,
	"mingo@...hat.com" <mingo@...hat.com>,
	"tglx@...utronix.de" <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	"x86@...nel.org" <x86@...nel.org>,
	"kexec@...ts.infradead.org" <kexec@...ts.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org" 
	<virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	"xen-devel@...ts.xensource.com" <xen-devel@...ts.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct

On 22/11/2012 17:47, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> The other thing that should be considered here is how utterly 
> preposterous the notion of doing in-guest crash dumping is in a system 
> that contains a hypervisor.  The reason for kdump is that on bare metal 
> there are no other options, but in a hypervisor system the right thing 
> should be for the hypervisor to do the dump (possibly spawning a clean 
> I/O domain if the I/O domain is necessary to access the media.)
>
> There is absolutely no reason to have a crashkernel sitting around in 
> each guest, consuming memory, and possibly get corrupt.
>
> 	-hpa
>

(Your reply to my email which I can see on the xen devel archive appears
to have gotten lost somewhere inside the citrix email system, so
apologies for replying out of order)

The kdump kernel loaded by dom0 is for when Xen crashes, not for when
dom0 crashes (although a dom0 crash does admittedly lead to a Xen crash)

There is no possible way it could be a separate domain; Xen completely
ceases to function as soon as jumps to the entry point of the kdump image.

~Andrew
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/