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Date:	Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:59:42 +0100
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
To:	linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org
Cc:	Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@...com>, lenb@...nel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, bhelgaas@...gle.com,
	isimatu.yasuaki@...fujitsu.com, liuj97@...il.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] ACPI: Support system notify handler via .sys_notify

On Monday, November 26, 2012 02:24:09 PM Toshi Kani wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 14:09 -0700, Toshi Kani wrote:
> > On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 21:44 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Monday, November 26, 2012 12:06:39 PM Toshi Kani wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2012-11-24 at 23:37 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, November 24, 2012 11:01:56 PM Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, November 08, 2012 01:23:44 PM Toshi Kani wrote:
> > > > > > > Added a new .sys_notify interface, which allows ACPI drivers to
> > > > > > > register their system-level (ex. hotplug) notify handlers through
> > > > > > > their acpi_driver table.  This removes redundant ACPI namespace
> > > > > > > walks from ACPI drivers for faster booting.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The global notify handler acpi_bus_notify() is called for all
> > > > > > > system-level ACPI notifications, which then calls an appropriate
> > > > > > > driver's handler if any.  ACPI drivers no longer need to register
> > > > > > > or unregister driver's handler to each ACPI device object.  It also
> > > > > > > supports dynamic ACPI namespace with LoadTable & Unload opcode
> > > > > > > without any modification in ACPI drivers.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Added a common system notify handler acpi_bus_sys_notify(), which
> > > > > > > allows ACPI drivers to set it to .sys_notify when this function is
> > > > > > > fully implemented.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I don't really understand this.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > It removes functional conflict between driver's
> > > > > > > notify handler and the global notify handler acpi_bus_notify().
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Note that the changes maintain backward compatibility for ACPI
> > > > > > > drivers.  Any drivers registered their hotplug handler through the
> > > > > > > existing interfaces, such as acpi_install_notify_handler() and
> > > > > > > register_acpi_bus_notifier(), will continue to work as before.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I really wouldn't like to add new callbacks to struct acpi_device_ops, because
> > > > > > I'd like that whole thing to go away entirely eventually, along with struct
> > > > > > acpi_driver.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Moreover, in this particular case, it really is not useful to have to define
> > > > > > a struct acpi_driver so that one can register for receiving system
> > > > > > notifications from ACPI.  It would be really nice if non-ACPI drivers, such
> > > > > > as PCI or platform, could do that too.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Which they do by using acpi_install_notify_handler() directly.
> > > > 
> > > > By using acpi_install_notify_handler(), each driver needs to walk
> > > > through the entire ACPI namespace to find its associated ACPI devices
> > > > and call it to register one by one.  I think this is more work for
> > > > non-ACPI drivers than defining acpi_driver.
> > > 
> > > I'm not really sure what you mean.  The drivers in question already know
> > > what the relevant ACPI device nodes are (because they need them anyway
> > > for other purposes), so they don't need to look for them specifically and
> > > acpi_install_notify_handler() doesn't do any namespace walking.  So what
> > > you said above simply doesn't make sense from this viewpoint.
> > 
> > Yes, if drivers already know the relevant ACPI devices, then walking the
> > ACPI namespace is not necessary.  I was referring the case like
> > processor_driver.c, acpi_memhotplug.c, and container.c in my statement. 
> 
> BTW, when an ACPI device is marked as non-present, which is the case
> before hot-add, we do not create an acpi_device object and therefore do
> not bind it with a driver.  This is why these drivers walk the ACPI
> namespace and install their notify handlers regardless of device status.

So maybe we should create struct acpi_device objects in that case too?

Rafael


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Rafael J. Wysocki, Intel Open Source Technology Center.
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