linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] ACPI: Support system notify handler via .sys

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Message-ID: <1354137803.26955.325.camel@misato.fc.hp.com>
Date:	Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:23:23 -0700
From:	Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@...com>
To:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
Cc:	linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org, lenb@...nel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, bhelgaas@...gle.com,
	isimatu.yasuaki@...fujitsu.com, liuj97@...il.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] ACPI: Support system notify handler via
 .sys_notify

On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 22:09 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 01:31:39 PM Toshi Kani wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 19:28 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 09:54:43 AM Toshi Kani wrote:
> > > > > > > > > By using acpi_install_notify_handler(), each driver needs to walk
> > > > > > > > > through the entire ACPI namespace to find its associated ACPI devices
> > > > > > > > > and call it to register one by one.  I think this is more work for
> > > > > > > > > non-ACPI drivers than defining acpi_driver.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I'm not really sure what you mean.  The drivers in question already know
> > > > > > > > what the relevant ACPI device nodes are (because they need them anyway
> > > > > > > > for other purposes), so they don't need to look for them specifically and
> > > > > > > > acpi_install_notify_handler() doesn't do any namespace walking.  So what
> > > > > > > > you said above simply doesn't make sense from this viewpoint.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Yes, if drivers already know the relevant ACPI devices, then walking the
> > > > > > > ACPI namespace is not necessary.  I was referring the case like
> > > > > > > processor_driver.c, acpi_memhotplug.c, and container.c in my statement. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > BTW, when an ACPI device is marked as non-present, which is the case
> > > > > > before hot-add, we do not create an acpi_device object and therefore do
> > > > > > not bind it with a driver.  This is why these drivers walk the ACPI
> > > > > > namespace and install their notify handlers regardless of device status.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So maybe we should create struct acpi_device objects in that case too?
> > > > 
> > > > I think it has some challenge as well.  We bind an ACPI driver with
> > > > device_register(), which calls device_add()-> kobject_add().  So, all
> > > > non-present ACPI device objects will show up in sysfs, unless we can
> > > > change the core.  This will change user interface.  There can be quite
> > > > many non-present devices in ACPI namespace depending on FW
> > > > implementation.
> > > 
> > > If additional devices appear in sysfs, that's not a problem.  If there
> > > were fewer of them, that would be a real one. :-)
> > 
> > I see.  I guess this means that once we expose all non-present devices
> > in sysfs, we cannot go back to the current way.  So, we need to be very
> > careful.  Anyway, this model requires separate handling for static ACPI
> > [1] and dynamic ACPI [2], which may make the state model complicated.
> > 
> > 1. Static ACPI - No creation / deletion of acpi_device at hot-plug.
> > 2. Dynamic ACPI - Create acpi_device at hot-add, delete at hot-remove.
> 
> Sure.  The complication here is that we'll need to handle the removal of
> a bunch of struct acpi_device objects when a whole table goes away.
> 
> However, first, we don't seem to handle table unloading now.  At least
> acpi_unload_parent_table() is not called from anywhere as far as I can
> say.  Second, we'll need to handle the removal of struct acpi_device objects
> _anyway_ on table unload, this way or another.

AML is the one that requests loading/unloading of SSDT for dynamic ACPI.
In hot-add, _Lxx method executes AML_LOAD_OP or AML_LOAD_TABLE_OP to
load SSDT and then sends a notification to the OS.  In hot-remove, _EJ0
method executes AML_UNLOAD_OP to unload SSDT.  Of course, ACPICA does
the actual work on behalf of AML.  But this is not visible to ACPI core
or drivers, unless it checks ACPI namespace to see if any device objects
disappeared after _EJ0.

Thanks,
-Toshi


> > [1] ACPI namespace is static and contains the maximum possible config. 
> > [2] ACPI namespace is dynamic. SSDT is loaded at hot-add, and unloaded
> > at hot-remove.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rafael
> 
> 


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