linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] ARM: ftrace: Ensure code modifications are synchronised across all cpus

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Message-ID: <20121207164530.GX14363@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
Date:	Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:45:30 +0000
From:	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>
To:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
Cc:	"Jon Medhurst (Tixy)" <tixy@...aro.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Rabin Vincent <rabin@....in>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ARM: ftrace: Ensure code modifications are
	synchronised across all cpus

On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 11:36:40AM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-12-07 at 16:23 +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> 
> > That's fine if there are better ways.  If your view is that this would
> > bring things "up to the future" consider this: what you suggest is possible
> > with the standard ARM 32-bit instruction set.  With the more modern Thumb
> > instruction set, because we now effectively have prefixes, where those
> > prefixes control the execution of the following instructions, what you
> > suggest becomes no longer possible.
> > 
> > So, it's not a question of bringing stuff up to the future at all... you
> > can call it a design regression of you will, but you're really making
> > demands about how CPUs work which are outside of your remit.
> > 
> > Think of this a bit like you changing the opcodes immediately following a
> > 'LOCK' prefix on x86.  I suspect divorsing the following opcodes from its
> > prefix would be very bad for the instructions atomicity.
> 
> But what about the limitations that the function tracer imposes on the
> code that gets modified by stop_machine()?
> 
> 1) the original code is simply a call to mcount
> 
> 2) on boot up, that call gets converted into a nop
> 
> 3) the code that gets changed will only be converting a nop to a call
> into the function tracer, and back again.
> 
> IOW, it's a very limited subset of the ARM assembly that gets touched.
> I'm not sure what the op codes are for the above, but I can imagine they
> don't impose the prefixes as you described.
> 
> If that's the case, is it still possible to change to the breakpoint
> method?

I have no idea; I've no idea how ftrace works on ARM.  That's something
other people use and deal with.  Last (and only) time I used the built-in
kernel tracing facilities I ended up giving up with it and going back to
using my sched-clock+record+printk based approaches instead on account
of the kernels built-in tracing being far too heavy.
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