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Message-ID: <880965bb-90af-4a0f-9971-6bb8eb9ba2b7@default>
Date:	Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:16:58 -0800 (PST)
From:	Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@...cle.com>
To:	Seth Jennings <sjenning@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:	Nitin Gupta <ngupta@...are.org>, Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@...cle.com>,
	Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@...cle.com>,
	Robert Jennings <rcj@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Jenifer Hopper <jhopper@...ibm.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@...hat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Larry Woodman <lwoodman@...hat.com>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, devel@...verdev.osuosl.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCHv2 8/9] zswap: add to mm/

> From: Seth Jennings [mailto:sjenning@...ux.vnet.ibm.com]
> Subject: [PATCHv2 8/9] zswap: add to mm/
> 
> zswap is a thin compression backend for frontswap. It receives
> pages from frontswap and attempts to store them in a compressed
> memory pool, resulting in an effective partial memory reclaim and
> dramatically reduced swap device I/O.
> 
> Additional, in most cases, pages can be retrieved from this
> compressed store much more quickly than reading from tradition
> swap devices resulting in faster performance for many workloads.
> 
> This patch adds the zswap driver to mm/
> 
> Signed-off-by: Seth Jennings <sjenning@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>

I've implemented the equivalent of zswap_flush_*
in zcache.  It looks much better than my earlier
attempt at similar code to move zpages to swap.
Nice work and thanks!

But... (isn't there always a "but";-)...

> +/*
> + * This limits is arbitrary for now until a better
> + * policy can be implemented. This is so we don't
> + * eat all of RAM decompressing pages for writeback.
> + */
> +#define ZSWAP_MAX_OUTSTANDING_FLUSHES 64
> +	if (atomic_read(&zswap_outstanding_flushes) >
> +		ZSWAP_MAX_OUTSTANDING_FLUSHES)
> +		return;

>From what I can see, zcache is in some ways more aggressive in
some circumstances in "flushing" (zcache calls it "unuse"),
and in some ways less aggressive.  But with significant exercise,
I can always cause the kernel to OOM when it is under heavy
memory pressure and the flush/unuse code is being used.

Have you given any further thought to "a better policy"
(see the comment in the snippet above)?  I'm going
to try a smaller number than 64 to see if the OOMs
go away, but choosing a random number for this throttling
doesn't seem like a good plan for moving forward.

Thanks,
Dan

P.S. I know you, like I, often use something kernbench-ish to
exercise your code.  I've found that compiling a kernel,
then switching to another kernel directory, doing a git pull,
and compiling that kernel, causes a lot of flushes/unuses
and the OOMs.  (This with 1GB RAM booting RHEL6 with a full GUI.)
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