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Date:	Fri, 11 Jan 2013 22:56:35 +0800
From:	Alex Shi <alex.shi@...el.com>
To:	li guang <lig.fnst@...fujitsu.com>
CC:	Preeti U Murthy <preeti@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <Morten.Rasmussen@....com>,
	"mingo@...hat.com" <mingo@...hat.com>,
	"peterz@...radead.org" <peterz@...radead.org>,
	"tglx@...utronix.de" <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	"akpm@...ux-foundation.org" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"arjan@...ux.intel.com" <arjan@...ux.intel.com>,
	"bp@...en8.de" <bp@...en8.de>, "pjt@...gle.com" <pjt@...gle.com>,
	"namhyung@...nel.org" <namhyung@...nel.org>,
	"efault@....de" <efault@....de>,
	"vincent.guittot@...aro.org" <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>,
	"gregkh@...uxfoundation.org" <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 05/22] sched: remove domain iterations in fork/exec/wake

On 01/11/2013 04:01 PM, li guang wrote:
> 在 2013-01-11五的 10:26 +0530,Preeti U Murthy写道:
>> Hi Morten,Alex
>>
>> On 01/09/2013 11:51 PM, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jan 05, 2013 at 08:37:34AM +0000, Alex Shi wrote:
>>>> Guess the search cpu from bottom to up in domain tree come from
>>>> commit 3dbd5342074a1e sched: multilevel sbe sbf, the purpose is
>>>> balancing over tasks on all level domains.
>>>>
>>>> This balancing cost much if there has many domain/groups in a large
>>>> system. And force spreading task among different domains may cause
>>>> performance issue due to bad locality.
>>>>
>>>> If we remove this code, we will get quick fork/exec/wake, plus better
>>>> balancing among whole system, that also reduce migrations in future
>>>> load balancing.
>>>>
>>>> This patch increases 10+% performance of hackbench on my 4 sockets
>>>> NHM and SNB machines.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Alex Shi <alex.shi@...el.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>  kernel/sched/fair.c | 20 +-------------------
>>>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 19 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>>> index ecfbf8e..895a3f4 100644
>>>> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>>> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>>> @@ -3364,15 +3364,9 @@ select_task_rq_fair(struct task_struct *p, int sd_flag, int wake_flags)
>>>>  		goto unlock;
>>>>  	}
>>>>  
>>>> -	while (sd) {
>>>> +	if (sd) {
>>>>  		int load_idx = sd->forkexec_idx;
>>>>  		struct sched_group *group;
>>>> -		int weight;
>>>> -
>>>> -		if (!(sd->flags & sd_flag)) {
>>>> -			sd = sd->child;
>>>> -			continue;
>>>> -		}
>>>>  
>>>>  		if (sd_flag & SD_BALANCE_WAKE)
>>>>  			load_idx = sd->wake_idx;
>>>> @@ -3382,18 +3376,6 @@ select_task_rq_fair(struct task_struct *p, int sd_flag, int wake_flags)
>>>>  			goto unlock;
>>>>  
>>>>  		new_cpu = find_idlest_cpu(group, p, cpu);
>>>> -
>>>> -		/* Now try balancing at a lower domain level of new_cpu */
>>>> -		cpu = new_cpu;
>>>> -		weight = sd->span_weight;
>>>> -		sd = NULL;
>>>> -		for_each_domain(cpu, tmp) {
>>>> -			if (weight <= tmp->span_weight)
>>>> -				break;
>>>> -			if (tmp->flags & sd_flag)
>>>> -				sd = tmp;
>>>> -		}
>>>> -		/* while loop will break here if sd == NULL */
>>>
>>> I agree that this should be a major optimization. I just can't figure
>>> out why the existing recursive search for an idle cpu switches to the
>>> new cpu near the end and then starts a search for an idle cpu in the new
>>> cpu's domain. Is this to handle some exotic sched domain configurations?
>>> If so, they probably wouldn't work with your optimizations.
>>
>> Let me explain my understanding of why the recursive search is the way
>> it is.
>>
>>  _________________________  sd0
>> |                         |
>> |  ___sd1__   ___sd2__    |
>> | |        | |        |   |
>> | | sgx    | |  sga   |   |
>> | | sgy    | |  sgb   |   |
>> | |________| |________|   |
>> |_________________________|
>>
>> What the current recursive search is doing is (assuming we start with
>> sd0-the top level sched domain whose flags are rightly set). we find
>> that sd1 is the idlest group,and a cpux1 in sgx is the idlest cpu.
>>
>> We could have ideally stopped the search here.But the problem with this
>> is that there is a possibility that sgx is more loaded than sgy; meaning
>> the cpus in sgx are heavily imbalanced;say there are two cpus cpux1 and
>> cpux2 in sgx,where cpux2 is heavily loaded and cpux1 has recently gotten
>> idle and load balancing has not come to its rescue yet.According to the
>> search above, cpux1 is idle,but is *not the right candidate for
>> scheduling forked task,it is the right candidate for relieving the load
>> from cpux2* due to cache locality etc.
> 
> This corner case may occur after "[PATCH v3 03/22] sched: fix
> find_idlest_group mess logical" brought in the local sched_group bias,
> and assume balancing runs on cpux2.
> ideally,  find_idlest_group should find the real idlest(this case: sgy),
> then, this patch is reasonable.
> 

Sure. but seems it is a bit hard to go down the idlest group.

and the old logical is real cost too much, on my 2 socket NHM/SNB
server, hackbench can increase 2~5% performance. and no clean
performance on kbuild/aim7 etc.

-- 
Thanks
    Alex
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