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Date:	Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:33:28 -0700
From:	Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@...com>
To:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
Cc:	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
	Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@...ux.intel.com>,
	Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@...ula.com>,
	Yinghai Lu <yinghai@...nel.org>, Jiang Liu <liuj97@...il.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] ACPI scan handlers

On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 13:58 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Thursday, January 24, 2013 01:26:56 AM Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > There is a considerable amount of confusion in the ACPI subsystem about what
> > ACPI drivers are used for.  Namely, some of them are used as "normal" device
> > drivers that bind to devices and handle them using ACPI control methods (like
> > the fan or battery drivers), but some of them are just used for handling
> > namespace events, such as the creation or removal of device nodes (I guess it
> > would be fair to call that an abuse of the driver core).  These two roles are
> > quite distinct, which is particularly visible from the confusion about the role
> > of the .remove() callback.
> > 
> > For the "normal" drivers this callback is simply used to handle situations in
> > which the driver needs to be unbound from the device, because one of them
> > (either the device or the driver) is going away.  That operation can't really
> > fail, it just needs to do the necessary cleanup.
> > 
> > However, for the namespace events handling "drivers" .remove() means that not
> > only the device node in question, but generally also the whole subtree below it
> > needs to be prepared for removal, which may involve deleting multiple device
> > objects belonging to different bus types and so on and which very well may fail
> > (for example, those devices may be used for such things like swap or they may be
> > memory banks used by the kernel and it may not be safe to remove them at the
> > moment etc.).  Moreover, for these things the removal of the "driver" doesn't
> > really make sense, because it has to be there to handle the namespace events it
> > is designed to handle or else things will go remarkably awry in some places.
> > 
> > To resolve all that mess I'd like to do the following, which in part is inspired
> > by the recent Toshi Kani's hotplug framework proposal and in part is based on
> > some discussions I had with Bjorn and others (the code references made below are
> > based on the current contens of linux-pm.git/linux-next).
> > 
> > 1) Introduce a special data type for "ACPI namespace event handlers" like:
> > 
> > struct acpi_scan_handler {
> > 	const struct acpi_device_id *ids;
> > 	struct list_head list_node;
> > 	int (*attach)(struct acpi_device *adev);
> > 	int (*untie)(struct acpi_device *adev);
> > 	int (*reclaim)(struct acpi_device *adev);
> > 	void (*detach)(struct acpi_device *adev);
> > };
> 
> After some reconsideration I think that the "untie" and "reclaim" things won't
> be really useful at this level.  This means that I only need ACPI scan handlers
> to do .attach() and .detach() and all of that becomes really simple, so I don't
> see reason to wait with that change.

That's great.  I agree with you.  The name of attach/detach() also
clarifies the purpose of the interfaces well.  

Thanks,
-Toshi

ps.
I am tied up this week and will be somewhat slow to respond...


> 
> The following patches introduce ACPI scan handlers and make some use of them.
> 
> [1/4] Introduce struct acpi_scan_handler for configuration tasks depending on
>       device IDs.
> 
> [2/4] Make ACPI PCI root driver use struct acpi_scan_handler.
> 
> [3/4] Make ACPI PCI IRQ link driver use struct acpi_scan_handler.
> 
> [4/4] Use struct acpi_scan_handler for creating platform devices enumerated via ACPI.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rafael
> 
> 


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