Message-ID: <1354083114.9797983.1359933595870.JavaMail.root@redhat.com>
Date:	Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:19:55 -0500 (EST)
From:	David Airlie <airlied@...hat.com>
To:	Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@...nvz.org>
Cc:	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	e1000-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net, linux-pci@...r.kernel.org,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] PCI: revert preparing for wakeup in runtime-suspend
 finalization



----- Original Message -----
> From: "Konstantin Khlebnikov" <khlebnikov@...nvz.org>
> To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
> Cc: "Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@...gle.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, e1000-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net,
> linux-pci@...r.kernel.org, "Dave Airlie" <airlied@...hat.com>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>
> Sent: Saturday, 2 February, 2013 10:12:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] PCI: revert preparing for wakeup in runtime-suspend finalization
> 
> Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:55:15 PM Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 11:04:57 AM Konstantin Khlebnikov
> >> wrote:
> >>> Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >>>> On Monday, January 28, 2013 04:17:42 PM Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> >>>>> [+cc Rafael]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:42 AM, Konstantin Khlebnikov
> >>>>> <khlebnikov@...nvz.org>   wrote:
> >>>>>> This patch effectively reverts commit
> >>>>>> 42eca2302146fed51335b95128e949ee6f54478f
> >>>>>> ("PCI: Don't touch card regs after runtime suspend D3")
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> | This patch checks whether the pci state is saved and doesn't
> >>>>>> | attempt to hit
> >>>>>> | any registers after that point if it is.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This seems completely wrong. Yes, PCI configuration space has
> >>>>>> been saved by
> >>>>>> driver, but this doesn't means that all job is done and device
> >>>>>> has been
> >>>>>> suspended and ready for waking up in the future.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For example driver e1000e for ethernet in my thinkpad x220
> >>>>>> saves pci-state
> >>>>>> but device cannot wakeup after that, because it needs some
> >>>>>> ACPI callbacks
> >>>>>> which usually called from pci_finish_runtime_suspend().
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> | Optimus (dual-gpu) laptops seem to have their own form of
> >>>>>> | D3cold, but
> >>>>>> | unfortunately enter it on normal D3 transitions via the ACPI
> >>>>>> | callback.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hardware which disappears from the bus unexpectedly is
> >>>>>> exception, so let's
> >>>>>> handle it as an exception. Its driver should set device state
> >>>>>> to D3cold and
> >>>>>> the rest code will handle it properly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Functions in D3cold don't have power, so it's completely
> >>>>> expected that
> >>>>> they would disappear from the bus and not respond to config
> >>>>> accesses.
> >>>>> Maybe Dave was referring to D3hot, where functions *should*
> >>>>> respond to
> >>>>> config accesses.  I dunno.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just to be clear, it sounds like 42eca230 caused a regression
> >>>>> on your
> >>>>> e1000e device?  If so, I guess we should revert it unless you
> >>>>> and Dave
> >>>>> can figure out a better patch that fixes both your e1000e
> >>>>> device and
> >>>>> the Optimus issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, if there's a regression, let's revert it, but I'd like the
> >>>> regression
> >>>> to be described clearly.
> >>>
> >>> Yep, this is regression.
> >>>
> >>> commit 42eca2302146fed51335b95128e949ee6f54478f ("PCI: Don't
> >>> touch
> >>> card regs after runtime suspend D3") changes state convention
> >>> during
> >>> runtime-suspend transaction too much. If PCI configuration space
> >>> has been saved by driver that does not means that all job is done
> >>> and device has been suspended and ready for waking up in the
> >>> future.
> >>>
> >>> e1000e saves pci-config space itself, but it requires operations
> >>> which
> >>> pci_finish_runtime_suspend() does: preparing for wake (calling
> >>> particular
> >>> platform pm-callbacks) and switching to proper sleep state.
> >>
> >> Well, I'd argue this is a bug in e1000e.  Why does it need to save
> >> the PCI
> >> config space even though pci_pm_runtime_suspend() will do that
> >> anyway?
> >
> > I honestly don't think we should revert 42eca2302146 because of
> > this.
> >
> > Yes, there is a requirement that drivers not save the PCI config
> > space by
> > themselves unless they want to do the whole power management by
> > themselves too
> > and e1000e is not following that.  So either we need to drop the
> > pci_save_state() from __e1000_shutdown() which I would prefer (I'm
> > not really
> > sure why it is there), or e1000_runtime_suspend() needs to call
> > pci_finish_runtime_suspend() by itself.
> 
> Yet another problem: some drivers calls pci_save_state() from
> ->probe() callback
> to use this saved state in pci_error_handlers->slot_reset().
> As result pdev->state_saved is true mostly all time.
> At least e1000e and drivers/pci/pcie/portdrv_pci.c are doing this.
> 
> I think it will be safer to revert 42eca2302146 in v3.8
> 

btw I've no problem reverting this for 3.8, though I'd like to get a fix in for 3.9 then,
the code relying on this change is still not completed, so a revert shouldn't break anything.

but definitely if a card goes into D3cold, we need to not poke any registers on it after it
returns.

Dave.
Dave.
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