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Date:	Wed, 6 Feb 2013 10:54:53 -0700
From:	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>
To:	Yinghai Lu <yinghai@...nel.org>
Cc:	Jiang Liu <jiang.liu@...wei.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...hat.com>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@...el.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	Taku Izumi <izumi.taku@...fujitsu.com>,
	Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@...com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	linux-pci@...r.kernel.org, Russell King <linux@....linux.org.uk>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/22] PCI: Iterate pci host bridge instead of pci root bus

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Yinghai Lu <yinghai@...nel.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe.  I'd rather not introduce for_each_pci_host_bridge() at all, if
>> we can avoid it.  Every place it's used is a place we have to audit to
>> make sure it's safe.  I think your audit above is correct and
>> complete, but it relies on way too much architecture knowledge.  It's
>> better if we can deduce correctness without knowing which arches
>> support hotplug and which CPUs support EDAC.
>>
>> As soon as for_each_pci_host_bridge() is in the tree, those uses can
>> be copied to even more places.  It's a macro, so it's usable by any
>> module, even out-of-tree ones that we'll never see and can't fix.  So
>> we won't really have a good way to deprecate and remove it.
>
> Now we only have two references in modules.
>
> drivers/edac/i7core_edac.c:     for_each_pci_host_bridge(host_bridge) {
> drivers/pci/hotplug/sgi_hotplug.c:      for_each_pci_host_bridge(host_bridge) {
>
> for the sgi_hotplug.c, it should be same problem that have for acpiphp
> and pciehp.
> need to make it support pci host bridge hotplug anyway.
>
> for edac, we need to check Mauro about their plan.
>
> After those two are addressed, we can drop that EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL for
> pci_get_next_host_bridge.
>
> We do have pci_get_domain_bus_and_slot() as export symbol.
> So we export pci_get_next_host_bridge should be ok now.
> and it would be better than export root buses list.

I think you're missing the point.

Search the tree for uses of "for_each_pci_dev()."  Almost every
occurrence is a bug because that code doesn't work correctly for
hot-added devices.  That code gets run for devices that are present at
boot, but not for devices hot-added later.

You're proposing to add "for_each_pci_host_bridge()."  That will have
the exact same problem as for_each_pci_dev() already does.  Code that
uses it will work for host bridges present at boot, but not for
bridges hot-added later.

Why would we want to add an interface when every use of that interface
will be a design bug?  I think we should fix the existing users of
pci_root_buses by changing their designs so they will work correctly
with host bridge hotplug.

Bjorn
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