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Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:54:51 +0530
From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 04/45] percpu_rwlock: Implement the core design of
Per-CPU Reader-Writer Locks
On 02/10/2013 11:36 PM, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 02/08, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 01:03:53PM +0530, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>>>
>>> void percpu_read_unlock(struct percpu_rwlock *pcpu_rwlock)
>>> {
>>> - read_unlock(&pcpu_rwlock->global_rwlock);
>>
>> We need an smp_mb() here to keep the critical section ordered before the
>> this_cpu_dec() below. Otherwise, if a writer shows up just after we
>> exit the fastpath, that writer is not guaranteed to see the effects of
>> our critical section. Equivalently, the prior read-side critical section
>> just might see some of the writer's updates, which could be a bit of
>> a surprise to the reader.
>
> Agreed, we should not assume that a "reader" doesn't write. And we should
> ensure that this "read" section actually completes before this_cpu_dec().
>
Right, will fix.
>>> + /*
>>> + * We never allow heterogeneous nesting of readers. So it is trivial
>>> + * to find out the kind of reader we are, and undo the operation
>>> + * done by our corresponding percpu_read_lock().
>>> + */
>>> + if (__this_cpu_read(*pcpu_rwlock->reader_refcnt)) {
>>> + this_cpu_dec(*pcpu_rwlock->reader_refcnt);
>>> + smp_wmb(); /* Paired with smp_rmb() in sync_reader() */
>>
>> Given an smp_mb() above, I don't understand the need for this smp_wmb().
>> Isn't the idea that if the writer sees ->reader_refcnt decremented to
>> zero, it also needs to see the effects of the corresponding reader's
>> critical section?
>
> I am equally confused ;)
>
> OTOH, we can probably aboid any barrier if reader_nested_percpu() == T.
>
Good point! Will add that optimization, thank you!
>
>>> +static void announce_writer_inactive(struct percpu_rwlock *pcpu_rwlock)
>>> +{
>>> + unsigned int cpu;
>>> +
>>> + drop_writer_signal(pcpu_rwlock, smp_processor_id());
>>
>> Why do we drop ourselves twice? More to the point, why is it important to
>> drop ourselves first?
>
> And don't we need mb() _before_ we clear ->writer_signal ?
>
Oh, right! Or, how about moving announce_writer_inactive() to _after_
write_unlock()?
>>> +static inline void sync_reader(struct percpu_rwlock *pcpu_rwlock,
>>> + unsigned int cpu)
>>> +{
>>> + smp_rmb(); /* Paired with smp_[w]mb() in percpu_read_[un]lock() */
>>
>> As I understand it, the purpose of this memory barrier is to ensure
>> that the stores in drop_writer_signal() happen before the reads from
>> ->reader_refcnt in reader_uses_percpu_refcnt(), thus preventing the
>> race between a new reader attempting to use the fastpath and this writer
>> acquiring the lock. Unless I am confused, this must be smp_mb() rather
>> than smp_rmb().
>
> And note that before sync_reader() we call announce_writer_active() which
> already adds mb() before sync_all_readers/sync_reader, so this rmb() looks
> unneeded.
>
My intention was to help the writer see the ->reader_refcnt drop to zero
ASAP; hence I used smp_wmb() at reader and smp_rmb() here at the writer.
Please correct me if my understanding of memory barriers is wrong here..
> But, at the same time, could you confirm that we do not need another mb()
> after sync_all_readers() in percpu_write_lock() ? I mean, without mb(),
> can't this reader_uses_percpu_refcnt() LOAD leak into the critical section
> protected by ->global_rwlock? Then this LOAD can be re-ordered with other
> memory operations done by the writer.
>
Hmm.. it appears that we need a smp_mb() there.
>
>
> Srivatsa, I think that the code would be more understandable if you kill
> the helpers like sync_reader/raise_writer_signal. Perhaps even all "write"
> helpers, I am not sure. At least, it seems to me that all barriers should
> be moved to percpu_write_lock/unlock. But I won't insist of course, up to
> you.
>
Sure, sure. Even Tejun pointed out that those helpers are getting in the way
of readability. I'll get rid of them in the next version.
> And cosmetic nit... How about
>
> struct xxx {
> unsigned long reader_refcnt;
> bool writer_signal;
> }
>
> struct percpu_rwlock {
> struct xxx __percpu *xxx;
> rwlock_t global_rwlock;
> };
>
> ?
>
> This saves one alloc_percpu() and ensures that reader_refcnt/writer_signal
> are always in the same cache-line.
>
Ok, that sounds better. Will make that change. Thanks a lot Oleg!
Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat
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