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Date:	Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:56:19 -0500
From:	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>
To:	Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>
Cc:	linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>,
	Ying Han <yinghan@...gle.com>, Tejun Heo <htejun@...il.com>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@...allels.com>,
	Li Zefan <lizefan@...wei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/7] memcg: remove memcg from the reclaim iterators

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 04:16:49PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 08-02-13 14:33:18, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> [...]
> > for each in hierarchy:
> >   for each node:
> >     for each zone:
> >       for each reclaim priority:
> > 
> > every time a cgroup is destroyed.  I don't think such a hammer is
> > justified in general, let alone for consolidating code a little.
> > 
> > Can we invalidate the position cache lazily?  Have a global "cgroup
> > destruction" counter and store a snapshot of that counter whenever we
> > put a cgroup pointer in the position cache.  We only use the cached
> > pointer if that counter has not changed in the meantime, so we know
> > that the cgroup still exists.
> 
> Currently we have:
> rcu_read_lock()	// keeps cgroup links safe
> 	iter->iter_lock	// keeps selection exclusive for a specific iterator
> 	1) global_counter == iter_counter
> 	2) css_tryget(cached_memcg)  // check it is still alive
> rcu_read_unlock()
> 
> What would protect us from races when css would disappear between 1 and
> 2?

rcu

> css is invalidated from worker context scheduled from __css_put and it
> is using dentry locking which we surely do not want to pull here. We
> could hook into css_offline which is called with cgroup_mutex but we
> cannot use this one here because it is no longer exported and Tejun
> would kill us for that.
> So we can add a new global memcg internal lock to do this atomically.
> Ohh, this is getting uglier...

A racing final css_put() means that the tryget fails, but our RCU read
lock keeps the CSS allocated.  If the dead_count is uptodate, it means
that the rcu read lock was acquired before the synchronize_rcu()
before the css is freed.

> > It is pretty pretty imprecise and we invalidate the whole cache every
> > time a cgroup is destroyed, but I think that should be okay. 
> 
> I am not sure this is OK because this gives an indirect way of
> influencing reclaim in one hierarchy by another one which opens a door
> for regressions (or malicious over-reclaim in the extreme case).
> So I do not like this very much.
> 
> > If not, better ideas are welcome.
> 
> Maybe we could keep the counter per memcg but that would mean that we
> would need to go up the hierarchy as well. We wouldn't have to go over
> node-zone-priority cleanup so it would be much more lightweight.
> 
> I am not sure this is necessarily better than explicit cleanup because
> it brings yet another kind of generation number to the game but I guess
> I can live with it if people really thing the relaxed way is much
> better.
> What do you think about the patch below (untested yet)?

Better, but I think you can get rid of both locks:

mem_cgroup_iter:
rcu_read_lock()
if atomic_read(&root->dead_count) == iter->dead_count:
  smp_rmb()
  if tryget(iter->position):
    position = iter->position
memcg = find_next(postion)
css_put(position)
iter->position = memcg
smp_wmb() /* Write position cache BEFORE marking it uptodate */
iter->dead_count = atomic_read(&root->dead_count)
rcu_read_unlock()
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