Message-ID: <20130213225840.GV14195@fieldses.org>
Date:	Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:58:40 -0500
From:	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@...ldses.org>
To:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
Cc:	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
	Linux Containers <containers@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@...app.com>,
	Stanislav Kinsbursky <skinsbursky@...allels.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH review 52/85] sunrpc: Properly encode kuids and kgids in
 auth.unix.gid rpc pipe upcalls.

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 02:32:29PM -0800, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@...ldses.org> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 01:29:35PM -0800, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> >> "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@...ldses.org> writes:
> >> 
> >> > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 09:51:41AM -0800, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> >> >> From: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
> >> >> 
> >> >> When a new rpc connection is established with an in-kernel server, the
> >> >> traffic passes through svc_process_common, and svc_set_client and down
> >> >> into svcauth_unix_set_client if it is of type RPC_AUTH_NULL or
> >> >> RPC_AUTH_UNIX.
> >> >> 
> >> >> svcauth_unix_set_client then looks at the uid of the credential we
> >> >> have assigned to the incomming client and if we don't have the groups
> >> >> already cached makes an upcall to get a list of groups that the client
> >> >> can use.
> >> >> 
> >> >> The upcall encodes send a rpc message to user space encoding the uid
> >> >> of the user whose groups we want to know.  Encode the kuid of the user
> >> >> in the initial user namespace as nfs mounts can only happen today in
> >> >> the initial user namespace.
> >> >
> >> > OK, I didn't know that.
> >> >
> >> > (Though I'm unclear how it should matter to the server what user
> >> > namespace the client is in?)
> >> 
> >> Perhaps I have the description a little scrambled.  The short version
> >> is that to start I only support the initial network namespace.
> >> 
> >> If I haven't succeeded it is my intent to initially limit the servers
> >> to the initial user namespace as well.  I should see if I can figure
> >> that out.
> >> 
> >> >> When a reply to an upcall comes in convert interpret the uid and gid values
> >> >> from the rpc pipe as uids and gids in the initial user namespace and convert
> >> >> them into kuids and kgids before processing them further.
> >> >> 
> >> >> When reading proc files listing the uid to gid list cache convert the
> >> >> kuids and kgids from into uids and gids the initial user namespace.  As we are
> >> >> displaying server internal details it makes sense to display these values
> >> >> from the servers perspective.
> >> >
> >> > All of these caches are already per-network-namespace.  Ideally wouldn't
> >> > we also like to associate a user namespace with each cache somehow?
> >> 
> >> Ideally yes.  I read through the caches enough to figure out where there
> >> user space interfaces were, and to make certain we had conversions
> >> to/from kuids and kgids.
> >> 
> >> I haven't looked at what user namespace makes sense for these
> >> caches.  For this cache my first guess is that net->user_ns
> >> is what we want as it will be shared by all users in network namespace I
> >> presume.
> >
> > Oh, I didn't know about net->user_ns--so each network namespace is
> > associated with a single user namespace, great, that simplifies life.
> > Yes, that sounds exactly right.
> 
> Yes. net->user_ns is the user namespace the network namespace was
> created in.  And it is the user namespace that is used in test
> like ns_capable(net->user_ns, CAP_NET_ADMIN) to see if you are allowed
> to manipulate the network namespace.  So looks like exactly what we
> want for that cache.
> 
> Could you double check my understanding of the code?
> 
> I want to be certain that I can't _yet_ start an sunrpc server process
> outside of the initial user namespace.  While writing an earlier reply I
> realized that I hadn't thought about where sunrpc server processes come
> from.
> 
> Reading through the code it looks like we can have nfs mounts outside of
> the initial network namespace.

We're talking about the server side here, not the client, so I'm not
sure what you mean by "nfs mounts".  The nfs server does use various
pseudofilesystems ("proc", "nfsd"), and those can be mounted outside the
initial network namespace.

The server can receive rpc requests over network interfaces outside the
initial network namespace, sure.  The server doesn't perform mounts on
behalf of clients, though, it just accesses previously mounted
filesystems on clients' behalf.

> But because they are mounts they are
> still limited to the initial user namespace.

OK, so that's just a limitation on any mount whatsoever for now.  I'm
catching on, slowly, thanks!

> Now looking at the nfs server, seems to be hard coded to only start
> in the initial network namespace despite almost having support for
> starting in more.

Right, Stanislav's got 4 more patches that should finish the job; see
http://mid.gmane.org/<20130201125210.3257.46454.stgit@...alhost.localdomain>
and followups.  That should make it for 3.9, I just need to review
them....

> Even more the nfs server is controlled and started through the "nfsd"
> filesystem.  Which has to be mounted before you can start the server.
> So you can only start the server through a mount in the initial user
> namespace.

Yes.

> lockd is started by either the nfs server or the nfs client.
> 
> There are no other sunrpc servers in the kernel.

There are a couple callback services on the NFS client--those should be
associated with nfs mounts in some obvious way.  There's a confusing ACL
service that's really just an appendage of NFSv2/v3 service.

I think we're fine.

> I think all of that is enough to reasonably claim that you can't have
> any sunrpc server processes outside of the initial user namespace.  But
> if I am wrong I would to find an appropriate spot to put in a line
> that says:
> 	 if (current_user_ns() != &init_user)
>          	return -ESORRY_CHARLEY;

I think you're right.

So for now it's safely confined to one user namespace, and I think we
understand approximately what to do if we want to support nfsd's in user
namespace in the future.  (Mainly, make sure nfsd and proc can be
mounted in them and then most things will be determined by the user_ns
of the network namespace associated with a given rpc.)

--b.
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