linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 0/3] build linux-next without perl

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Message-Id: <1362026927.15531.2@driftwood>
Date:	Wed, 27 Feb 2013 22:48:47 -0600
From:	Rob Landley <rob@...dley.net>
To:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@...nvz.org>,
	Dave Jones <davej@...hat.com>,
	David Howells <dhowell@...hat.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...e.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...ux.intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Josh Boyer <jwboyer@...hat.com>, Michal Marek <mmarek@...e.cz>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Vince Weaver <vincent.weaver@...ne.edu>, x86@...nel.org,
	Zheng Yan <zheng.z.yan@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] build linux-next without perl

On 02/27/2013 03:51:55 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:57:52 -0800 (PST)
> Rob Landley <rob@...dley.net> wrote:
> 
> > Before 2.6.25 building Linux never required perl. This patch series  
> removes
> > the requirement from basic kernel builds (tested on i686, x86_64,  
> arm, mips,
> > powerpc, sparc, sh4, and m68k). Now updated to 3.8-rc1.
> >
> > Note, this removes perl from the _build_ environment, not from the  
> _development_
> > environment. This is approximately the same logic behind "make  
> menuconfig"
> > requiring curses but "make oldconfig" not requiring curses.  
> Including
> > zconf.lex.c_shipped in kconfig and then requiring perl makes no  
> sense.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Mostly people just copy the patches into their local projects (ala
> > https://github.com/rofl0r/sabotage/tree/master/KEEP ) but I'm  
> reposting
> > them to linux-kernel after Gentoo considered using these patches,  
> but didn't
> > because they weren't upstream:
> >   https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421483
> 
> Sitting here scratching head wondering why you-need-perl is a problem
> for anyone.
> 
> That gentoo bug report provides some explanation: "perl was removed
> from @system".  But I expect other people have different reasons.
> 
> IOW, please better describe the motivation for this patchset.

P.S. A much shorter reply than mine, from David Anders:

https://plus.google.com/101339419642360856354/posts/AyRnz2REq8C

Rob--
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