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Message-ID: <20130417101617.GF3881@redhat.com>
Date:	Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:16:17 +0300
From:	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
To:	Victor Miasnikov <vvm@....by>
Cc:	"K. Y. Srinivasan" <kys@...rosoft.com>, x86@...nel.org,
	gregkh@...uxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	devel@...uxdriverproject.org, olaf@...fle.de, apw@...onical.com,
	jasowang@...hat.com, tglx@...utronix.de, hpa@...or.com,
	JBeulich@...e.com, bp@...en8.de
Subject: Re: KVM  "Hyper-V emulation"   -- this can be related "Linux on
 Hyper-V" ? Or  "KVM emulates Hyper-V" as  "Hyper-V emulates Hyper-V" ? Re:
 [PATCH 2/3] X86: Add a check to catch Xen emulation of Hyper-V

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:10:01PM +0300, Victor Miasnikov wrote:
> Question is very simple:  Hyper-V users/sysadmins need wait patch a-la this:
> 
> ==
> KVM emulates Hyper-V to host enlightened Windows. Looks like this
> emulation may be turned on by default even for Linux guests. Check and
> fail Hyper-V detection if we are on KVM.

> [ hpa: the problem here is that KVM doesn't emulate Hyper-V well
>  enough, and if the KVM support isn't compiled in, we end up stubling
>  over the Hyper-V emulation and try to activate it -- and it fails. ]
> 
> . . .

What's emulated not well enough?

> + /*
> +  * KVM emulates Hyper-V to support enlightened Windows.
> +  * Check to see first if we are on a KVM Hypervisor.
> +  */

If the hypervisor says it's Hyper-V, that's because it wants
guests to use Hyper-V. I don't see why is guest second-guessing
this a good idea.

> + if (KVM_cpuid_base())
> +  return false;
> +
> ==
> 
> 
> Or  "KVM emulates Hyper-V" as  "Hyper-V emulates Hyper-V" ?
> 
> 
> Best regards, Victor Miasnikov
> Blog:  http://vvm.blog.tut.by/
> 
> P.S.

No.  You are using Hyper-V, not the KVM emulation of it.  No patches
dealing with this emulation should have any effect on you.

-- 
MST
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