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Message-ID: <20130503173444.GH3780@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 10:34:44 -0700
From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc: Julian Anastasov <ja@....bg>, Simon Horman <horms@...ge.net.au>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, lvs-devel@...r.kernel.org,
netdev@...r.kernel.org, netfilter-devel@...r.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@...filter.org>,
Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@...ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] sched: Add cond_resched_rcu_lock() helper
On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 07:04:47PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > The key point is that I don't understand why we cannot get the effect
> > we are looking for with the following in sched.h (or wherever):
> >
> > static inline int cond_resched_rcu(void)
> > {
> > #if defined(CONFIG_DEBUG_ATOMIC_SLEEP) || !defined(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU)
> > rcu_read_unlock();
> > cond_resched();
> > rcu_read_lock();
> > #endif
> > }
> >
> > This adds absolutely no overhead in non-debug builds of CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU,
> > does the checking in debug builds, and allows voluntary preemption in
> > !CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU builds. CONFIG_PROVE_RCU builds will check for an
> > (illegal) outer rcu_read_lock() in CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU builds, and you
> > will get "scheduling while atomic" in response to an outer rcu_read_lock()
> > in !CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU builds.
> >
> > It also seems to me a lot simpler.
> >
> > Does this work, or am I still missing something?
>
> It can do quite a number of superfluous rcu_read_unlock()/lock() pairs for
> voluntary preemption kernels?
This happens in only two cases:
1. CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU=n kernels. But in this case, rcu_read_unlock()
and rcu_read_lock() are free, at least for CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING=n
kernels. And if you have CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING=y, any contribution
from rcu_read_unlock() and rcu_read_lock() will be in the noise.
2. CONFIG_DEBUG_ATOMIC_SLEEP=y kernels -- but in this case, you
-want- the debugging.
So either the overhead is non-existent, or you explicitly asked for the
resulting debugging.
In particular, CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU=y kernels have an empty static inline
function, which is free -- unless CONFIG_DEBUG_ATOMIC_SLEEP=y, in which
case you again explicitly asked for the debugging.
So I do not believe that the extra rcu_read_unlock()/lock() pairs are a
problem in any of the possible combinations of configurations.
Thanx, Paul
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