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Date:	Wed, 8 May 2013 09:55:45 +0800
From:	Wang YanQing <>
To:	Greg KH <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH]TTY: Fix tty can't be restarted by TCXONC ioctl request

On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 11:58:00AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 02:47:34AM +0800, Wang YanQing wrote:
> > The reason is before emacs takeover control the tty,
> > we use CTRL-S to XOFF it. Then when emacs takeover the
> > control, it may don't use the flow-control, so emacs hang.
> > But after search the emacs's startup codes, I find they use TCXONC
> > to workaround this situation:
> > 
> >   /* This code added to insure that, if flow-control is not to be used,
> >      we have an unlocked terminal at the start. */
> >   if (!tty_out->flow_control) ioctl (fileno (tty_out->input), TCXONC, 1);
> >   ioctl (fileno (tty_out->input), TCXONC, 1);

The second line of ioctl:
"ioctl (fileno (tty_out->input), TCXONC, 1);"

It is not there in emacs' code, I add it for debuging, and forget to
delete it.
Greg KH, could you delete it from ChangeLog if you accept this patch?

> > But this workaround never work due the kernel's current code.
> > This patch fix it.
> > 
> > Below is the ChangeLog introduce the tty->flow_stopped flag:
> > 
> > Thu Nov 21 10:05:22 1996  Theodre Ts'o  <>
> > 
> >        * tty_ioctl.c (tty_wait_until_sent): Always check the driver
> >                wait_until_ready routine, even if there are no characters
> >                in the xmit buffer.  (There may be charactes in the device
> >                FIFO.)
> >                (n_tty_ioctl): Add new flag tty->flow_stopped which
> >                indicates whether the tty is stopped due to a request by
> >                the TCXONC ioctl (used by tcflow).  If so, don't let an
> >                incoming XOFF character restart the tty.  The tty can only
> >                be restarted by another TCXONC request.
> > 
> > So I think this patch make TCXONC can restart tty which stopped by
> > STOP_CHAR don't break the original meaning.
> > 
> > This patch will fix some strange tty relation hang problem,
> > I believe I meet it with vim in ssh, and also see below bug report:
> >
> So this has been a problem since 1996?  Or is it newly introduced due to
> some changes in this area in a newer kernel?

I have tested the v2.6.32.45, and have the same issue, my current environment
can't compile and test v2.6.24/v2.6.25, due make version maybe.

But after explore history codes, I want to say,
yes, this issue since 1996 that we can't use TCXONC 
to restart tty which be stopped by STOP_CHAR.

Kernel process the STOP_CHAR/START_CHAR to implement 
flow control, but userspace should have methold to 
START/STOP it by ioctl or others' similar positive method
which don't depend on another side, that's TCXONC.


    Start or stop the output. 

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