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Date:	Sat, 25 May 2013 09:59:46 -0700
From:	Shawn Nematbakhsh <shawnn@...omium.org>
To:	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	Sarah Sharp <sarah.a.sharp@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:	linux-usb@...r.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Julius Werner <jwerner@...omium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] usb: xhci: Disable runtime PM suspend for quirky controllers.

Hi Sarah and Alan,

Thanks for the comments. I will make the following revisions:

1. Call pm_runtime_get_noresume only when the first device is
connected, and call pm_runtime_put when the last device is
disconnected.
2. Wrap the calls in an ifdef CONFIG_USB_DEFAULT_PERSIST.
3. Make sure that all pm_runtime_get_noresume calls have a
corresponding pm_runtime_put somewhere (originally the intent was to
disable runtime suspend "forever", but no longer).

In principle, would the patch be acceptable with these revisions?

On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu> wrote:
> On Fri, 24 May 2013, Sarah Sharp wrote:
>
>> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 11:12:57AM -0700, Shawn Nematbakhsh wrote:
>> > If a USB controller with XHCI_RESET_ON_RESUME goes to runtime suspend,
>> > a reset will be performed upon runtime resume. Any previously suspended
>> > devices attached to the controller will be re-enumerated at this time.
>> > This will cause problems, for example, if an open system call on the
>> > device triggered the resume (the open call will fail).
>>
>> That's ugly, but disabling runtime PM is going to have a big impact on
>> the power consumption of those systems.
>>
>> Alan, do you think this is really the right thing to be doing here?  It
>> feels like userspace should just be able to deal with devices
>> disconnecting on resume.  After all, there are lots of USB devices that
>> can't handle USB device suspend at all.
>
> This is a complicated issue.  It depends on the runtime PM settings for
> both the device and the host controller.
>
> As just one aspect, consider the fact that if it wants to, userspace
> can already prevent the controller from going into runtime suspend.
> Always preventing this at the kernel level, even when no devices are
> plugged in, does seem too heavy-handed.
>
>> Shouldn't userspace just disable runtime PM for the USB device classes
>> that don't have a reset resume callback?
>
> That's not so easy, because the kernel changes over time.  Userspace
> has no general way to tell which drivers have reset-resume support.
>
>> > Note that this change is only relevant when persist_enabled is not set
>> > for USB devices.
>>
>> Could we at least wrap the call in an ifdef CONFIG_USB_DEFAULT_PERSIST?
>> That way if people have USB persist turned off in their configuration,
>> their host will still be able to suspend.
>
> Not just that; the patch is incorrect on the face of it...
>
>> > @@ -4687,6 +4687,12 @@ int xhci_gen_setup(struct usb_hcd *hcd, xhci_get_quirks_t get_quirks)
>> >
>> >     get_quirks(dev, xhci);
>> >
>> > +   /* If we are resetting upon resume, we must disable runtime PM.
>> > +    * Otherwise, an open() syscall to a device on our runtime suspended
>> > +    * controller will trigger controller reset and device re-enumeration */
>> > +   if (xhci->quirks & XHCI_RESET_ON_RESUME)
>> > +           pm_runtime_get_noresume(dev);
>> > +
>
> It adds a pm_runtime_get call with no corresponding pm_runtime_put.
>
> Alan Stern
>
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