linux-kernel - Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

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Message-ID: <CAPweEDxfWcv7HSDuO6Uc751iiPg9ngDQc5UB7mbxwBespwF_7Q@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 7 Jun 2013 09:06:24 +0100
From:	"luke.leighton" <luke.leighton@...il.com>
To:	Linux on small ARM machines <arm-netbook@...ts.phcomp.co.uk>
Cc:	debian-arm@...ts.debian.org,
	devicetree-discuss <devicetree-discuss@...abs.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	ARM Linux Mailing List <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	debian-kernel@...ts.debian.org
Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re:
 Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Vladimir Pantelic <vladoman@...il.com> wrote:
> luke.leighton wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Vladimir Pantelic <vladoman@...il.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 4 days? WTF? since when did setting an ultimatum to the kernel
>>> community work?
>>
>>
>>   i was only informed of the opportunity 2 days ago, vladimir.  this is
>> an important meeting.  of course the linux kernel community is
>> entirely free to:
>>
>> * completely ignore this opportunity
>> * continue to complain that soc vendors do not follow their
>> unilaterally-decided rules
>
>
> SoC vendors are free to join the discussion, and many SoC vendors are part
> of the kernel community, so calling this unilateral is plain wrong.

 you're free to believe that, vladimir.  i've explained why that
hasn't happened, in prior messages.  can we move forward, please?

>
>>   3 days remaining on the clock.
>
>
> what catastrophic thing will happen when the time runs out?

 no catastrophe, vladimir: all that happens is that an opportunity is
lost, and the result of that is that the situation remains as it is,
with a major soc vendor being divorced from and isolated from the free
software community, who will continue to have to shoulder the
frustrating and isolated burden of responsibility of reworking
"over-the-fence" kernel patches as best they can with the limited
resources that they have.
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