linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH] mmc: Enable wakeup

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Message-ID: <CAMbhsRSC5XhhSK-DAoS7_JAj7XUfaM_Topp4UcBaVwRCYXSscQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:33:45 -0700
From:	Colin Cross <ccross@...roid.com>
To:	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@...aro.org>
Cc:	Zoran Markovic <zoran.markovic@...aro.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, linux-mmc@...r.kernel.org,
	San Mehat <san@...gle.com>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org>,
	Chris Ball <cjb@...top.org>,
	Johan Rudholm <johan.rudholm@...ricsson.com>,
	Jaehoon Chung <jh80.chung@...sung.com>,
	Konstantin Dorfman <kdorfman@...eaurora.org>,
	Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@....de>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mmc: Enable wakeup_sources for mmc core

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@...aro.org> wrote:
> On 14 June 2013 22:52, Colin Cross <ccross@...roid.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Zoran Markovic
>> <zoran.markovic@...aro.org> wrote:
>>>> I am not sure I understand why this patch is needed. When a new card
>>>> is inserted/removed and the upper levels gets notification about the
>>>> new card, triggering the mounting/un-mounting of the file system, why
>>>> should it be the lowest layer (mmc) that prevents the platform from
>>>> enter suspend/sleep? Why do we need to prevent it at all?
>>>>
>>>> Note that notifier handling in mmc_pm_notify, was if I remember
>>>> correctly, not completely developed when the original version of this
>>>> patch was being discussed. mmc_pm_notify prevents cards from being
>>>> inserted/removed in the middle of suspend->resume sequence, is that
>>>> not enough?
>>>
>>> I will try to speak on behalf of the original implementers in a hope
>>> they would provide the original motivation for the patch.
>>>
>>> My understanding is that any preemption in the procedure could be an
>>> opportunity to suspend, as there may be a suspend request racing with
>>> this code. This is why the calls to __pm_stay_awake() and
>>> queue_delayed_work() are so tightly coupled. It would be up to the
>>> delayed work procedure (mmc_rescan()) to decide whether or not it is
>>> safe to suspend. If there are no changes in the MMC state or all
>>> changes can be handled by mmc_rescan(), it is safe to call
>>> __pm_relax(). Otherwise, userland may take over processing of this
>>> event, and this is why the awake state needs to be extended by 1/2
>>> second.
>>
>> The __pm_stay_awake() is required to prevent autosleep during the time
>> between the card detect interrupt and when the userspace process that
>> gets the notification runs.  The 1/2 second delay is used because it
>> is easier than trying to detect when the userspace process has
>> received the notification, at which time it should hold its own
>> wakelock and the mmc subsystem can call __pm_relax().
>
> Hi Colin,
>
> I don't have the in-depth knowledge about how the userspace deamons
> handles the event notifications, so please bare with me while I am
> trying to understand more here.
>
> First of all, are we trying to solve an  issue here or just improving
> some specific situation, that is not clear to me.
>
> I might have misunderstood this patch, but it seems like your concern
> is that you believe the event notification can get lost - if userspace
> are about to trigger a suspend while a card is being inserted/removed.
> If that is the case, could you elaborate on what level the
> notification can get lost?
>
> Kind regards
> Ulf Hansson

This is a generic requirement for using a kernel with autosleep
enabled.  Autosleep will enter suspend whenever there is no wakeup
source/wakelock held.  Consider the following sequence:

Kernel is suspended
Card is inserted, triggering a wakeup interrupt, which is an implicit
wakeup source until it is handled
Kernel starts resuming, resumes the mmc driver
The mmc driver enables its interrupt, which is immediately handled and
queues an event to be handled by userspace
At this point the wakeup interrupt is handled and gone, and no wakeup
sources are being held, so the kernel can choose to go back to
suspend, so userspace can't handle the insertion event until the
kernel wakes up for another reason.

In general, an event that is triggered by a wakeup interrupt that is
being passed from the kernel to userspace needs to have a wakeup
source held while the event is queued.
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