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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1306201055580.4013@ionos.tec.linutronix.de>
Date:	Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:02:23 +0200 (CEST)
From:	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
To:	Chen Gang <gang.chen@...anux.com>
cc:	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kernel/timer.c: using spin_lock_irqsave instead of
 spin_lock + local_irq_save, especially when CONFIG_LOCKDEP not defined

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013, Chen Gang wrote:
> On 06/20/2013 03:36 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Jun 2013, Chen Gang wrote:
> >> > On 06/19/2013 06:49 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> >>> > > We must do this because some architectures implement
> >>> > > do_raw_spin_lock_flags() in the following way:
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > do_raw_spin_lock_flags(l, flags)
> >>> > > {
> >>> > > 	while (!arch_spin_trylock(l)) {
> >>> > > 	      if (!irq_disabled_flags(flags)) {
> >>> > > 	      	      arch_irq_restore(flags);
> >>> > > 		      cpu_relax();
> >>> > > 		      arch_irq_disable();
> >>> > > 	      }
> >>> > > 	}
> >>> > > }
> >>> > > 
> >> > 
> >> > For mn10300 and sparc64 (not space32), it doesn't like your demo above.
> > Sigh. You're an sparc64 and mn10300 assembler expert, right?
> >  
> 
> No, do you mean: "only the related expert can discuss about it" ?

A discussion requires that the people who are discussing something are
familiar with the matter.

> >> > For API definition, it has no duty to make it correct if the user call
> >> > them with informal ways, especially, the implementation is related with
> >> > various architectures.
> > Nonsense.
> >
> 
> The word 'Nonsense' seems not quite polite.  ;-)

It might be not polite, but it's correct. And I really start to get
annoyed.
 
> At least, when some one see this usage below:
> 
>    spin_lock_irqsave(&l1, flags);
>    spin_unlock(&l1);
>    spin_lock(&l2);
>    spin_unlock_irqrestore(&l2, flags);
> 
> most of them will be amazing.

What's amazing about this?

It's the equivivalent to:

     local_irq_save(flags);
     spin_lock(&l1);
     spin_unlock(&l1);
     spin_lock(&l2);
     spin_unlock(&l2);
     local_irq_restore(flags);

The only difference is, that spin_lock_irqsave() implementations are
allowed to reenable interrupts while spinning, but again that's an
implementation detail which does not matter at all.

Thanks,

	tglx


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