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Message-ID: <51C2D9FE.40203@asianux.com>
Date:	Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:31:26 +0800
From:	Chen Gang <gang.chen@...anux.com>
To:	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
CC:	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kernel/timer.c: using spin_lock_irqsave instead of spin_lock
 + local_irq_save, especially when CONFIG_LOCKDEP not defined

On 06/20/2013 05:02 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013, Chen Gang wrote:
>> > On 06/20/2013 03:36 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>> > > On Thu, 20 Jun 2013, Chen Gang wrote:
>>>>> > >> > On 06/19/2013 06:49 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>> > > We must do this because some architectures implement
>>>>>>> > >>> > > do_raw_spin_lock_flags() in the following way:
>>>>>>> > >>> > > 
>>>>>>> > >>> > > do_raw_spin_lock_flags(l, flags)
>>>>>>> > >>> > > {
>>>>>>> > >>> > > 	while (!arch_spin_trylock(l)) {
>>>>>>> > >>> > > 	      if (!irq_disabled_flags(flags)) {
>>>>>>> > >>> > > 	      	      arch_irq_restore(flags);
>>>>>>> > >>> > > 		      cpu_relax();
>>>>>>> > >>> > > 		      arch_irq_disable();
>>>>>>> > >>> > > 	      }
>>>>>>> > >>> > > 	}
>>>>>>> > >>> > > }
>>>>>>> > >>> > > 
>>>>> > >> > 
>>>>> > >> > For mn10300 and sparc64 (not space32), it doesn't like your demo above.
>>> > > Sigh. You're an sparc64 and mn10300 assembler expert, right?
>>> > >  
>> > 
>> > No, do you mean: "only the related expert can discuss about it" ?
> A discussion requires that the people who are discussing something are
> familiar with the matter.
> 

In fact, if every related member are familiar with the matter, it is
only a "work flow" (providing pach --> review --> apply), not need
'discussion'.


>>>>> > >> > For API definition, it has no duty to make it correct if the user call
>>>>> > >> > them with informal ways, especially, the implementation is related with
>>>>> > >> > various architectures.
>>> > > Nonsense.
>>> > >
>> > 
>> > The word 'Nonsense' seems not quite polite.  ;-)
> It might be not polite, but it's correct. And I really start to get
> annoyed.
>  

correct and polite are different things.

For cooperation, better with polite.


>> > At least, when some one see this usage below:
>> > 
>> >    spin_lock_irqsave(&l1, flags);
>> >    spin_unlock(&l1);
>> >    spin_lock(&l2);
>> >    spin_unlock_irqrestore(&l2, flags);
>> > 
>> > most of them will be amazing.
> What's amazing about this?
> 
> It's the equivivalent to:
> 
>      local_irq_save(flags);
>      spin_lock(&l1);
>      spin_unlock(&l1);
>      spin_lock(&l2);
>      spin_unlock(&l2);
>      local_irq_restore(flags);
> 
> The only difference is, that spin_lock_irqsave() implementations are
> allowed to reenable interrupts while spinning, but again that's an
> implementation detail which does not matter at all.

We are just discussing about it in another mail thread, so not need
reply it.


Thanks
-- 
Chen Gang

Asianux Corporation
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