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Message-ID: <20130701132800.GA11841@khazad-dum.debian.net>
Date:	Mon, 1 Jul 2013 10:28:00 -0300
From:	Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@....eng.br>
To:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
Cc:	Mark Lord <kernel@...rt.ca>,
	Ondrej Zary <linux@...nbow-software.org>,
	Mark Lord <mlord@...ox.com>,
	Marcus Overhagen <marcus.overhagen@...il.com>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-ide@...r.kernel.org, tj@...nel.org
Subject: Re: SATA hdd refuses to reallocate a sector?

On Sun, 30 Jun 2013, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > You know, either the "long" or the "offline" SMART test routines do exactly
> > > > that on any spinning rust device with a firmware that is not utterly broken.
> > > > 
> > > > The HDD's firmware will rewrite, and even reallocate any "weak" sectors
> > > > found by the surface scan.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > The drives I have tried this on (smartctl -t long),
> > > abort at the first bad sector.  Not useful.
> > 
> > Which vendor?  The Seagates I have on hand are not that crappy, for example
> > (their issues are subpar mechanics and the resulting high rate of failure,
> > but the firmware at least is not a piece of crap)...
> 
> Are you sure? I seem to have firmware issues:
> 
> === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
> Model Family:     Seagate Momentus 5400.6 series

Apparently there is too much of a difference between Seagate Momentus and
Seagate Barracuda.  The barracuda are not crap [as far as the firmware
goes], where apparently the Momentus have crap firmware.

So we're both correct, and I was not precise enough when I spoke well of
Seagate firware :-)

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh
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