linux-kernel - Re: scheduling while atomic & hang.

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Message-ID: <20130706080744.GA1342@gmail.com>
Date:	Sat, 6 Jul 2013 10:07:44 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
To:	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Dave Jones <davej@...hat.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: scheduling while atomic & hang.


* Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 12:27:51PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > It would be nice to have a full-kernel-stack backtrace printout as an
> > > option, which prints entries 'above' the current RSP.
> > 
> > One problem with that is that it is likely to be mostly overwritten by 
> > the debug code that is about to print this all out - and any non-debug 
> > code may well be really old, just with a sufficiently deep stack trace 
> > to show up. Not to mention missing any irq-stack changes etc anyway.
> > 
> > So it can easily be *very* misleading - I'm not sure how useful it 
> > would be as an idea.
> > 
> >                 Linus
> 
> So if the unwider doesn't run with the same stak than the target, it 
> migh work. This can work with BUG for example But I believe that WARN 
> doesn't do a trap in x86.

Instead of switching stacks it might be better to create an early snapshot 
of the stack into a temporary area before calling anything, and to print 
that. This is debug code, so overhead is not a big issue.

But yeah, Linus is right, it gets hairy, can be misleading and has limited 
utility :-/

Thanks,

	Ingo
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