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Message-ID: <20130710030926.GD7491@concordia>
Date:	Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:09:26 +1000
From:	Michael Ellerman <michael@...erman.id.au>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	Vince Weaver <vincent.weaver@...ne.edu>,
	Vince Weaver <vince@...ter.net>,
	Runzhen Wang <runzhen@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	paulus@...ba.org, acme@...hat.com, mingo@...nel.org,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@...gle.com>,
	sukadev@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, xiaoguangrong@...ux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] perf tools: Make Power7 events available for perf

On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 10:14:34AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 10:24:34PM -0400, Vince Weaver wrote:
> > 
> > So something like they have on ARM?
> > 
> > vince@...daboard:/sys/bus/event_source/devices$ ls -l
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jul  8 21:57 ARMv7 Cortex-A9 -> ../../../devices/ARMv7 Cortex-A9
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jul  8 21:57 breakpoint -> ../../../devices/breakpoint
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jul  8 21:57 software -> ../../../devices/software
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jul  8 21:57 tracepoint -> ../../../devices/tracepoint
> 
> Right so what I remember of the ARM case is that their /proc/cpuinfo isn't
> sufficient to identify their PMU. And they don't have a cpuid like instruction
> at all.
> 
> > > For the cpu you can obviously just detect what processor you're on with
> > > cpuid or whatever, but it's a bit of a hack. And that really doesn't
> > > work for non-cpu PMUs.
> > 
> > why is it a hack to use cpuid?
> 
> I agree, for x86 cpuid is perfectly fine, as would /proc/cpuinfo be, I suspect
> that just the model number is sufficient in most cases, even for uncore stuff.
 
What about things on PCI? Other strange buses?

As long as everything's in /sys then it should be _possible_ for
userspace to work out what's what, but it's going to end up with a bunch
of detection logic and heuristics in the library.

At which point you've just rewritten libpfm4.

cheers
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