linux-kernel - Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review

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Date:	Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:52:48 -0700
From:	Sarah Sharp <sarah.a.sharp@...ux.intel.com>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Cc:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Dave Jones <davej@...hat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	stable <stable@...r.kernel.org>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@...ux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review

On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 18:17:08 +0200, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org> wrote:
> * Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > I tend to hold things off after -rc4 because you scare me more than Greg
> > > does ;-)
> > 
> > Have you guys *seen* Greg? The guy is a freakish giant. He *should*
> > scare you. He might squish you without ever even noticing.
> 
> Greg might be a giant and he might squish people without ever even 
> noticing, but that's just a grave, deadly physical threat no real kernel 
> hacker ever feels threatened by. (Not much can hurt us deep in our dark 
> basements after all, except maybe earthquakes, gamma ray eruptions and Mom 
> trying to clean up around the computers.)
> 
> So Greg, if you want it all to change, create some _real_ threat: be frank 
> with contributors and sometimes swear a bit. That will cut your mailqueue 
> in half, promise!

On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 08:22:27 -0700, Linus wrote:
> Greg, the reason you get a lot of stable patches seems to be that you
> make it easy to act as a door-mat. Clearly at least some people say "I
> know this patch isn't important enough to send to Linus, but I know Greg
> will silently accept it after the fact, so I'll just wait and mark it
> for stable".
>
> You may need to learn to shout at people.

Seriously, guys?  Is this what we need in order to get improve -stable?
Linus Torvalds is advocating for physical intimidation and violence.
Ingo Molnar and Linus are advocating for verbal abuse.

Not *fucking* cool.  Violence, whether it be physical intimidation,
verbal threats or verbal abuse is not acceptable.  Keep it professional
on the mailing lists.

Let's discuss this at Kernel Summit where we can at least yell at each
other in person.  Yeah, just try yelling at me about this.  I'll roar
right back, louder, for all the people who lose their voice when they
get yelled at by top maintainers.  I won't be the nice girl anymore.

Sarah Sharp
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