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Date:	Mon, 15 Jul 2013 23:37:43 -0400
From:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
To:	NeilBrown <neilb@...e.de>
Cc:	Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>,
	Sarah Sharp <sarah.a.sharp@...ux.intel.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Dave Jones <davej@...hat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	stable <stable@...r.kernel.org>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@...ux.intel.com>,
	ksummit-2013-discuss@...ts.linuxfoundation.org,
	Willy Tarreau <w@....eu>
Subject: Re: [ATTEND] How to act on LKML (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 23:34 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 13:14 +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> 
> > Surely there is an enormous difference between being required to defend your
> > position against rational and forceful argument, and being required to defend
> > it against irrelevant name calling.
> 
> Sure, but I don't think there's really much name calling in the kernel
> community.
> 
> I just scanned a large number of LKML emails, and they all seemed rather
> technical, and no personal attacks at all. And that included several
> emails from Linus as well. Probably the strongest email came from Thomas
> Gleixner, but even that didn't contain any personal name calling. Mostly
> he called stuff "crap" but that was about the code and claims that the
> code did, but not about the person.
> 
> There are a few times that Linus gets a bit colorful with his
> criticisms, but that's really the minority of the email and not the
> overall tone. I think Linus picks his battles. Sometimes he goes
> overboard, but he's human. But I still think he's running this ship
> well.
> 

I just found this gem: https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/7/10/600

But it's just Linus ranting about having "make install" modify the
source tree (which I totally agree with him, as I've stumbled over crap
like this in other projects). But he's bitching about the code, not the
person who asked him to pull it.

-- Steve


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