linux-kernel - RE: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML

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Message-ID: <3908561D78D1C84285E8C5FCA982C28F31C8FE9D@ORSMSX106.amr.corp.intel.com>
Date:	Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:24:07 +0000
From:	"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@...el.com>
To:	Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@...il.com>,
	Sarah Sharp <sarah.a.sharp@...ux.intel.com>
CC:	David Lang <david@...g.hm>,
	"ksummit-2013-discuss@...ts.linuxfoundation.org" 
	<ksummit-2013-discuss@...ts.linuxfoundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@...ux.intel.com>,
	"Olivier Galibert" <galibert@...ox.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	stable <stable@...r.kernel.org>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Willy Tarreau <w@....eu>
Subject: RE: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML

> Those are just stories; things that happened. What you need to provide
> is *evidence* that if the community changes, things will be better,
> and unless you have a study of series of collaborative groups like the
> Linux kernel, that demonstrates that suppressing swearing has a
> positive effect in the community, I'd say all you have is an
> *opinion*.

1) There isn't going to be any hard evidence - this isn't a physics problem,
or even an engineering problem. It's a social problem.  There are no other
collaborative groups sufficiently similar to the Linux kernel community, so there
are no studies that would be relevant. Asking for the impossible is just a
lame delaying tactic.

2) Sarah hasn't even asked to cut down on the swearing - so why mention
it at all? Did you even read the thread?

So I shall (for comedic effect) indulge in my own (uncharacteristic) bit
of name calling and dub thee a troll (and every other bad thing that anyone
is ever alleged of calling another on LKML, just to be sure).

-Tony
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