linux-kernel - Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML

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Message-ID: <20130717231934.GC2120@roeck-us.net>
Date:	Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:19:34 -0700
From:	Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>
To:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>,
	ksummit-2013-discuss@...ts.linuxfoundation.org,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@...citrix.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@...ux.intel.com>,
	Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@...il.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Willy Tarreau <w@....eu>, stable <stable@...r.kernel.org>,
	Chris Ball <cjb@...top.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 04:08:31PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 03:49:23PM -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote:
> > On 07/17/13 15:02, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 07:40:43AM -0700, Sarah Sharp wrote:
> > > 
> > > [ ... ]
> > >>
> > >> The result: 75% of their developers are women.  If you give a flying
> > >> fuck about diversity, and want to attract women to your open source
> > > 
> > > The f word is considered highly offensive in some cultures. Granted its use is
> > > now far more spread than it used to be, but it seems interesting to me that you
> > > of all people use a word which I personally would never use at all, much less
> > > in front of a woman. Sounds like a contradiction to me, especially when you use
> > > it while arguing for a more civil discussion.
> > > 
> > > Do you think you need to use that word to make a point ? If so, why do you want
> > > to take that right away from others ?
> > 
> > Thank you for your comment.  (seriously)
> > 
> > and Dave Miller's as well.
> 
> The USA social conventions have changed quite significantly over the past
> 50 years, haven't they?  But that is OK, the younger people on this list
> will likely have the opportunity to experience far greater changes over
> the next 50 years, especially given increasing fractions of people's
> life experiences being publicly recorded.  It would be interesting to
> see how they react, but I probably won't be around to witness it.  ;-)
> 
My kids use the word all the time, and look at me with an odd face if I point out
that it is not a nice word to use (for me). Several people I know and respect
seem to be unable to say a sentence without using it. So, yes, I am aware that
times are changing, and that my cultural context is different than that of the
culture I am living in. But that isn't the point here.

Guenter
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