linux-kernel - Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

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Message-ID: <20130719060343.GA16774@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date:	Thu, 18 Jul 2013 23:03:43 -0700
From:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>
Cc:	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>,
	ksummit-2013-discuss@...ts.linuxfoundation.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@...ux.intel.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	stable <stable@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML (was: [
 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:01:05PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 10:14 +0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > OK, I am stupid enough to take a stab at this...
> > > 
> > > 1.    Does the Linux kernel community's health depend on the occasional
> > >       rant?  [My guess is that we simply have no way of knowing.
> > >       That said, I would be interested in hearing specific examples
> > >       of open-source communities that are as doing as well as is the
> > >       Linux community and that live within stricter social mores.
> > >       Cue arguments about exactly what "doing well" means...]
> 
> My little personal opinion (that nobody probably cares about :-) is that
> the occasional Linus rant is a good thing. It keeps people like me in
> check :-)
> 
> More seriously, the rant when I screw up is generally deserved, and the
> "idea" of the possible rant (I prefer not using threat) is actually a
> strong motivator to get things right.
> 
> Ie. It's a *very good* barrier against maintainers sliding into
> sloppyness. Really, it works. At least with me.
> 
> It's easy to take things a bit too much for granted, especially when you
> maintain your own little corner of the world.

Agreed!  Though I must confess that I have shifted from being mostly
worried about people yelling at me to being mostly worried about my own
code yelling at me.  Either way, I do find that being worried about some
consequence or another does help me get a better result.

							Thanx, Paul

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