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Date:	Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:26:09 -0700
From:	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
To:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Cc:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.hengli.com.au>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@...ove.sakura.ne.jp>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-crypto@...r.kernel.org,
	ak <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3.11-rc1] crypto: Fix boot failure due to module
 dependency.

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 04:21:09PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 07/19/2013 04:16 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > 
> > udev isn't doing any module loading, 'modprobe' is just being called for
> > any new module alias that shows up in the system, and all of the drivers
> > that match it then get loaded.
> > 
> > How is it a problem if a module is attempted to be loaded that is
> > already loaded?  How is it a problem if a different module is loaded for
> > a device already bound to a driver?  Both of those should be total
> > "no-ops" for the kernel.
> > 
> > But, I don't know anything about the cpu code, how is loading a module
> > causing problems?  That sounds like it needs to be fixes, as any root
> > user can load modules whenever they want, you can't protect the kernel
> > from doing that.
> > 
> 
> The issue here seems to be the dynamic binding nature of the crypto
> subsystem.  When something needs crypto, it will request the appropriate
> crypto module (e.g. crct10dif), which may race with detecting a specific
> hardware accelerator based on CPUID or device information (e.g.
> crct10dif_pclmul).
> 
> RAID has effectively the same issue, and we just "solved" it by
> compiling in all the accelerators into the top-level module.

Then there's nothing to be done in udev or kmod, right?

greg k-h
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