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Date:	Mon, 22 Jul 2013 16:13:25 +0530
From:	Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@...il.com>
To:	Lennart Poettering <lennart@...ttering.net>
Cc:	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@....at>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] um: change defconfig to stop spawning xterm

[Corrected Lennart's email ID]

Richard Weinberger wrote:
> CC'ing Lennart.
>
> Am 22.07.2013 11:45, schrieb Ramkumar Ramachandra:
>> Ramkumar Ramachandra wrote:
>>> [1]: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2013-July/012152.html
>>
>> ... and the patches were rejected.  Lennart says that UML providing
>> /dev/tty* is wrong, and that UML should call them /dev/hvc* (or
>> something).  Can we do something about the situation?  Can we remove
>> /dev/tty*, and provide /dev/hvc*?  Will we be breaking existing users?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Lennart Poettering wrote:
>>> UML shouldn't be penalized for not implementing some terminal emulation,
>>> but it should be penalized for doing so under the label of "VT support",
>>> which it simply is not providing.
>>>
>>> They can call their ttys any way they want. If the call them
>>> /dev/tty[1..64] however, then they need to implement the VC
>>> interfaces. All of them.
>
> Lennart, can you please explain us why /dev/tty[1..64] is forced to
> have virtual console support?
>
> Thanks,
> //richard
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