Date:	Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:31:26 -0400
From:	Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@...driver.com>
To:	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>
CC:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	<ksummit-2013-discuss@...ts.linuxfoundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] DT, maintainership, development
 process

On 13-07-29 10:11 AM, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:10:33 +0200
> "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl> wrote:
> 
>> That actually is simple enough.
>>
>> Check out the Linus' master branch and do
>>
>> $ git log --ancestry-path --merges <commit>..
> 
> So I picked a recent, single-signoff patch mostly at random:
> 
> 	8ade62857ef77bdf639185410fbcd811aa700cb2
> 
> That "git log" command gives me 156 intervening commits involving at least
> a dozen networking trees, along with virtio, parisc, blackfin, x86, ...
> Even if one stops looking at the first merge performed by Linus, that's 47
> to look at.  Did that patch really pass through all those peoples' hands?

Try this:

$ git describe --contains 8ade62857ef77bdf6391
v3.11-rc1~16^2~103^2^2~5^2~25

Looks scary, but lets deconstruct it right to left a chunk at
a time v3.11-rc1 ~16 ^2 ~103 ^2 ^2 ~5 ^2 ~25

So, your commit is 25 commits back in the 2nd branch of the merge
described by v3.11-rc1~16^2~103^2^2~5

git show v3.11-rc1~16^2~103^2^2~5
commit 76015021aaaa288bb4dc870258e0acc4d178c950
Merge: f7a01ca fded313
Author: John W. Linville <linville@...driver.com>
Date:   Mon Jun 10 14:51:17 2013 -0400

    Merge branch 'for-john' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/iwlwifi/iwlwifi-next

which is by definition, 5 commits back from 2nd branch
of the merge v3.11-rc1~16^2~103^2

$ git show v3.11-rc1~16^2~103^2
commit 3899ba90a4ab2f3cab8e0f91a76c14ff131c8293
Merge: 45203a3 8b3e7be
Author: John W. Linville <linville@...driver.com>
Date:   Tue Jun 11 14:48:32 2013 -0400

    Merge branch 'master' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/linville/wireless-next into for-davem

and that merge was merged into the merge v3.11-rc1~16^2~103

git show v3.11-rc1~16^2~103
commit 4a2e667ac15edd19b02321bc030acb3ebeb22ab6
Merge: 8f728d7 3899ba9
Author: David S. Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
Date:   Wed Jun 12 14:23:41 2013 -0700

    Merge branch 'for-davem' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/linville/wireless-next

which means the above merge was 103 commits back from the last
(last = latest/newest) commit on the 2nd arm in merge v3.11-rc1~16
and so on.

All the data is there, regardless of whether a maintainer manually
manipulated the patch and added a SOB line or not.

Paul.
--

> 
> Plus, of course, this assumes there's no fast-forward merges in the mix.
> 
>>>From your other message:
> 
>> And what about trusting maintainers?  If Linus trusts them enough to pull from
>> them, why can't everybody else trust them enough to assume that they don't do
>> bad things on purpose?
> 
> I hope you're not reading such thoughts into what *I* wrote.  But most
> anybody who works on code occasionally does bad things by mistake, that's
> why we have a review process.
> 
> jon
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