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Date:	Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:27:29 -0600
From:	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>
To:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
Cc:	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@...atus.com>,
	Myron Stowe <myron.stowe@...hat.com>,
	Jeff Kirsher <jeffrey.t.kirsher@...el.com>,
	Jesse Brandeburg <jesse.brandeburg@...el.com>,
	Bruce Allan <bruce.w.allan@...el.com>,
	Carolyn Wyborny <carolyn.wyborny@...el.com>,
	Don Skidmore <donald.c.skidmore@...el.com>,
	Greg Rose <gregory.v.rose@...el.com>,
	Peter P Waskiewicz Jr <peter.p.waskiewicz.jr@...el.com>,
	Alex Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@...el.com>,
	John Ronciak <john.ronciak@...el.com>,
	Tushar Dave <tushar.n.dave@...el.com>,
	"e1000-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net" 
	<e1000-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: /sys/module/pcie_aspm/parameters/policy not writable?

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz> wrote:
> Hi!
>
>> > But since the problem also occurs with Windows, it's pretty likely
>> > that there's a BIOS update to fix it.  I notice on the X60 support
>> > page that there are several versions newer than what you're running.
>>
>> Do you have any interest in trying a newer BIOS to see if it's fixed
>> there?  If not, I understand; BIOS updates are a hassle at best.
>> You're running BIOS 2.14, and it looks like the current BIOS for an
>> X60 1709 7HU is 2.19 (from http://support.lenovo.com).
>
> I'm lost at the lenovo pages :-(. And frankly I'd prefer not to touch
> the BIOS.

I tried to provide a complete link, but the web site isn't amenable to
that.  I found it by selecting the "Drivers & Software" section,
entering "X60" as the machine type, selecting "ThinkPad X60 (1709)"
and going to the "BIOS" section.  I was surprised how easy it was :)

>> Carolyn's patch will likely work, at least most of the time, but I
>> think there's a small possibility that it could cause a conflict
>> between the BIOS and the OS over ASPM control, so I'm not 100% in
>> support of that approach.  A conflict may not happen on your
>> machine,
>
> Can we base it on DMI  whitelist?

I don't think we can know a priori whether a machine (even your
machine) is susceptible to a conflict.  But if Carolyn forcibly
disables it in the driver, she can structure that with a whitelist or
whatever she thinks is best.

Bjorn
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