Message-ID: <5200F7C2.8090802@monstr.eu>
Date:	Tue, 06 Aug 2013 15:18:58 +0200
From:	Michal Simek <monstr@...str.eu>
To:	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>
CC:	Michal Simek <michal.simek@...inx.com>,
	Sören Brinkmann 
	<soren.brinkmann@...inx.com>, Stuart Menefy <stuart.menefy@...com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@...eaurora.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Russell King <linux@....linux.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Enable arm_global_timer for Zynq brakes boot

On 08/06/2013 03:08 PM, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> On 08/06/2013 02:41 PM, Michal Simek wrote:
>> On 08/06/2013 02:30 PM, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>>> On 08/06/2013 11:18 AM, Michal Simek wrote:
>>>> On 08/06/2013 10:46 AM, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>>>>> On 08/06/2013 03:28 AM, Sören Brinkmann wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 07:48:04PM +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>>>>>>> On 08/01/2013 07:43 PM, Sören Brinkmann wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 07:29:12PM +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2013 01:38 AM, Sören Brinkmann wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 01:01:27AM +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2013 12:18 AM, Sören Brinkmann wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 11:08:51PM +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 07/31/2013 10:58 PM, Sören Brinkmann wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:49:06PM +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 07/31/2013 12:34 AM, Sören Brinkmann wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:47:15AM +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 07/30/2013 02:03 AM, Sören Brinkmann wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 02:51:49PM +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the CPUIDLE_FLAG_TIMER_STOP flag tells the cpuidle framework the local
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> timer will be stopped when entering to the idle state. In this case, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cpuidle framework will call clockevents_notify(ENTER) and switches to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broadcast timer and will call clockevents_notify(EXIT) when exiting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idle state, switching the local timer back in use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been thinking about this, trying to understand how this makes my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot attempts on Zynq hang. IIUC, the wrongly provided TIMER_STOP flag
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would make the timer core switch to a broadcast device even though it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't be necessary. But shouldn't it still work? It sounds like we do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something useless, but nothing wrong in a sense that it should result in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breakage. I guess I'm missing something obvious. This timer system will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always remain a mystery to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually this more or less leads to the question: What is this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'broadcast timer'. I guess that is some clockevent device which is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> common to all cores? (that would be the cadence_ttc for Zynq). Is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hang pointing to some issue with that driver?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you look at the /proc/timer_list, which timer is used for broadcasting ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, the correct run results (full output attached).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The vanilla kernel uses the twd timers as local timers and the TTC as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broadcast device:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 	Tick Device: mode:     1                                                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 	Broadcast device  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 	Clock Event Device: ttc_clockevent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I remove the offending CPUIDLE flag and add the DT fragment to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enable the global timer, the twd timers are still used as local timers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the broadcast device is the global timer:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 	Tick Device: mode:     1                                                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 	Broadcast device                                                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 	Clock Event Device: arm_global_timer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, since boot hangs in the actually broken case, I don't see way to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obtain this information for that case.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't you use the maxcpus=1 option to ensure the system to boot up ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, that works. I forgot about that option after you mentioned, that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is most likely not that useful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, this are those sysfs files with an unmodified cpuidle driver and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the gt enabled and having maxcpus=1 set.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /proc/timer_list:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 	Tick Device: mode:     1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 	Broadcast device
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 	Clock Event Device: arm_global_timer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 	 max_delta_ns:   12884902005
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 	 min_delta_ns:   1000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 	 mult:           715827876
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 	 shift:          31
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 	 mode:           3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here the mode is 3 (CLOCK_EVT_MODE_ONESHOT)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The previous timer_list output you gave me when removing the offending
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cpuidle flag, it was 1 (CLOCK_EVT_MODE_SHUTDOWN).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible you try to get this output again right after onlining the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cpu1 in order to check if the broadcast device switches to SHUTDOWN ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How do I do that? I tried to online CPU1 after booting with maxcpus=1
>>>>>>>>>>>> and that didn't end well:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 	# echo 1 > online && cat /proc/timer_list 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm, I was hoping to have a small delay before the kernel hangs but
>>>>>>>>>>> apparently this is not the case... :(
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I suspect the global timer is shutdown at one moment but I don't
>>>>>>>>>>> understand why and when.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you add a stack trace in the "clockevents_shutdown" function with
>>>>>>>>>>> the clockevent device name ? Perhaps, we may see at boot time an
>>>>>>>>>>> interesting trace when it hangs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I did this change:
>>>>>>>>>> 	diff --git a/kernel/time/clockevents.c b/kernel/time/clockevents.c
>>>>>>>>>> 	index 38959c8..3ab11c1 100644
>>>>>>>>>> 	--- a/kernel/time/clockevents.c
>>>>>>>>>> 	+++ b/kernel/time/clockevents.c
>>>>>>>>>> 	@@ -92,6 +92,8 @@ void clockevents_set_mode(struct clock_event_device *dev,
>>>>>>>>>> 	  */
>>>>>>>>>> 	 void clockevents_shutdown(struct clock_event_device *dev)
>>>>>>>>>> 	 {
>>>>>>>>>> 	+       pr_info("ce->name:%s\n", dev->name);
>>>>>>>>>> 	+       dump_stack();
>>>>>>>>>> 	        clockevents_set_mode(dev, CLOCK_EVT_MODE_SHUTDOWN);
>>>>>>>>>> 	        dev->next_event.tv64 = KTIME_MAX;
>>>>>>>>>> 	 }
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is hit a few times during boot, so I attach a full boot log. I really
>>>>>>>>>> don't know what to look for, but I hope you can spot something in it. I
>>>>>>>>>> really appreciate you taking the time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the traces.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you try without the ttc_clockevent configured in the kernel (but with
>>>>>>>>> twd and gt), does it boot ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Absence of the TTC doesn't seem to make any difference. It hangs at the
>>>>>>>> same location.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, IMO there is a problem with the broadcast device registration (may
>>>>>>> be vs twd).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will check later (kid duty) :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was actually waiting for an update from your side and did something
>>>>>> else, but I seem to have run into this again. I was overhauling the
>>>>>> cadence_ttc (patch attached, based on tip/timers/core). And it seems to
>>>>>> show the same behavior as enabling the global_timer. With cpuidle off, it
>>>>>> works. With cpuidle, on it hangs. Removing the TIMER_STOP flag from the
>>>>>> C2 state makes it boot again.
>>>>>> It works just fine on our 3.10 kernel.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is not necessary related to the bug. If the patch you sent broke
>>>>> the cadence_ttc driver, when you use it (with the TIMER_STOP), you will
>>>>> be stuck. Removing the flag, may signifies you don't use the broadcast
>>>>> timer, hence the bug is not surfacing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Going back to the bug with the arm_global_timer, what is observed is the
>>>>> broadcast timer is *shutdown* when the second cpu is online.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have to dig into the kernel/time/clockevents.c|tick-*.c because IMO
>>>>> the issue is coming from there but before I have to reproduce the bug,
>>>>> so find a board I have where I can add the arm_global_timer.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Another thing I noticed - probably unrelated but hard to tell: On
>>>>>> 3.11-rc1 and later my system stops for quite some time at the hand off
>>>>>> to userspace. I.e. I see the 'freeing unused kernel memory...' line and
>>>>>> sometimes the following 'Welcome to Buildroot...' and then it stops and
>>>>>> on good kernels it continues after a while and boots through and on bad
>>>>>> ones it just hangs there.
>>>>>
>>>>> did you try to dump the stacks with magic-sysrq ? Or git bisect ?
>>>>
>>>> Soren: Are you able to replicate this issue on QEMU?
>>>> If yes, it should be the best if you can provide Qemu, kernel .config/
>>>> rootfs and simple manual to Daniel how to reach that fault.
>>>
>>> I tried to download qemu for zynq but it fails:
>>>
>>> git clone git://git.xilinx.com/qemu-xarm.git
>>> Cloning into 'qemu-xarm'...
>>> fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
>>
>> Not sure which site have you found but
>> it should be just qemu.git
>> https://github.com/Xilinx/qemu
>>
>> or github clone.
> 
> Ok, cool I was able to clone it.
> 
>>> I am also looking for the option specified for the kernel:
>>>
>>> "The kernel needs to be built with this feature turned on (in
>>> menuconfig, System Type->Xilinx Specific Features -> Device Tree At
>>> Fixed Address)."
> 
> Ok.
> 
>> This also sound like a very ancient tree.
>> This is the latest kernel tree - master-next is the latest devel branch.
>> https://github.com/Xilinx/linux-xlnx
> 
> Ok, cool. I have the right one.
> 
>> Or there should be an option to use the latest kernel from kernel.org.
>> (I think Soren is using it)
>>
>> Zynq is the part of multiplatfrom kernel and cadence ttc is there,
>> dts is also in the mainline kernel.
>>
>>> ps : apart that, well documented website !
>>
>> Can you send me the link to it?
> 
> http://xilinx.wikidot.com/zynq-qemu
> http://xilinx.wikidot.com/zynq-linux

I will find out information why it is still there.
I think it was moved to the new location.

> 
>> This should be the main page for it.
>> http://www.wiki.xilinx.com/
> 
> Thanks Michal !

Thank you too Daniel,
Michal

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