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Date:	Wed, 14 Aug 2013 06:47:45 -0700
From:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
CC:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <bitbucket@...ine.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...ux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-arch@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/5] preempt_count rework

On 08/14/2013 06:15 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> These patches optimize preempt_enable by firstly folding the preempt and
> need_resched tests into one -- this should work for all architectures. And
> secondly by providing per-arch preempt_count implementations; with x86 using
> per-cpu preempt_count for fastest access.
> 
> These patches have so far only been compiled for defconfig-x86_64 +
> CONFIG_PREEMPT=y and boot tested with kvm -smp 4 upto wanting to mount root.
> 
> It still needs asm volatile("call preempt_schedule": : :"memory"); as per
> Andi's other patches to avoid the C calling convention cluttering the
> preempt_enable() sites.

Hi,

I still don't see this using a decrement of the percpu variable
anywhere.  The C compiler doesn't know how to generate those, so if I'm
not completely wet we will end up relying on sub_preempt_count()...
which, because it relies on taking the address of the percpu variable
will generate absolutely horrific code.

On x86, you never want to take the address of a percpu variable if you
can avoid it, as you end up generating code like:

	movq %fs:0,%rax
	subl $1,(%rax)

... for absolutely no good reason.  You can use the existing accessors
for percpu variables, but that would make you lose the flags output
which was part of the point, so I think the whole sequence needs to be
in assembly (note that once you are manipulating percpu state you are
already in assembly.)

	-hpa


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