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Message-ID: <20130814163921.GC2706@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 01:39:21 +0900
From: Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>
Cc: Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@...wei.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, riel@...hat.com,
aquini@...hat.com, linux-mm@...ck.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: skip the page buddy block instead of one page
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 05:16:42PM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:52:29AM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > Hi Mel,
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 09:57:11AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:45:41PM +0800, Xishi Qiu wrote:
> > > > A large free page buddy block will continue many times, so if the page
> > > > is free, skip the whole page buddy block instead of one page.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@...wei.com>
> > >
> > > page_order cannot be used unless zone->lock is held which is not held in
> > > this path. Acquiring the lock would prevent parallel allocations from the
> >
> > Argh, I missed that. And it seems you already pointed it out long time ago
> > someone try to do same things if I remember correctly. :(
>
> It feels familiar but I do not remember why.
>
> > But let's think about it more.
> >
> > It's always not right because CMA and memory-hotplug already isolated
> > free pages in the range to MIGRATE_ISOLATE right before starting migration
> > so we could use page_order safely in those contexts even if we don't hold
> > zone->lock.
> >
>
> Both of those are teh corner cases. Neither operation happen frequently
> in comparison to something like THP allocations for example. I think an
> optimisation along those lines is marginal at best.
In embedded side, we don't use THP yet but uses CMA and memory-hotplug so
your claim isn't the case for the embedded world.
And as I said, CMA area is last fallback so it's likely to have many free
pages so bigger CMA area is, the bigger the benefit(CPU and Power) is,
I guess.
>
> > In addition, it's likely to have many free pages in case of CMA because CMA
> > makes MIGRATE_CMA fallback of MIGRATE_MOVABLE to minimize number of migrations.
> > Even CMA area was full, it could have many free pages once driver who is
> > CMA area's owner releases the CMA area. So, the bigger CMA space is,
> > the bigger patch's benefit is. And it could help memory-hotplug, too.
> >
> > Only problem is normal compaction. The worst case is just skipping
> > pageblock_nr_pages, for instace, 4M(of course, it depends on configuration).
> > but we can make the race window very small by dobule checking PageBuddy.
> > Still, it could make the race theoretically but I think it's really really
> > unlikely and still enhance compaction overhead withtout holding the lock.
> > Even if the race happens, normal compaction's customers(ex, THP) doesn't
> > have critical result and just fallback. So I think it isn't not bad tradeoff.
> >
> > diff --git a/mm/compaction.c b/mm/compaction.c
> > index 05ccb4c..2341d52 100644
> > --- a/mm/compaction.c
> > +++ b/mm/compaction.c
> > @@ -520,8 +520,18 @@ isolate_migratepages_range(struct zone *zone, struct compact_control *cc,
> > goto next_pageblock;
> >
> > /* Skip if free */
> > - if (PageBuddy(page))
> > + if (PageBuddy(page)) {
> > + /*
> > + * page_order is racy without zone->lock but worst case
> > + * by the racing is just skipping pageblock_nr_pages.
> > + * but even the race is really unlikely by double
> > + * check of PageBuddy.
> > + */
> > + unsigned long order = page_order(page);
> > + if (PageBuddy(page))
> > + low_pfn += (1 << order) - 1;
> > continue;
> > + }
> >
>
> Even if the page is still page buddy, there is no guarantee that it's
> the same page order as the first read. It could have be currently
> merging with adjacent buddies for example. There is also a really
> small race that a page was freed, allocated with some number stuffed
> into page->private and freed again before the second PageBuddy check.
> It's a bit of a hand grenade. How much of a performance benefit is there
1. Just worst case is skipping pageblock_nr_pages
2. Race is really small
3. Higher order page allocation customer always have graceful fallback.
If you really have a concern about that, we can add following.
>From 97d918d6dd9766e6be26512359153400df5c2035 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org>
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 00:37:21 +0900
Subject: [PATCH] compaction: skip buddy page during compaction
When isolate_migratepages_range meets free page, it just skip
a page instead whole free page block. It makes unnecessary
overhead of compaction so we might want to use page_order to skip whole
free page block but it's not safe without zone->lock.
With more thinking, it's always not right because CMA and memory-hotplug
already isolated free pages in the range to MIGRATE_ISOLATE right before
starting migration so we could use page_order safely in those contexts
even if we don't hold zone->lock.
In addition to that, it's likely to have many free pages in case of CMA
because CMA makes MIGRATE_CMA fallback of MIGRATE_MOVABLE to minimize
number of migrations. Even CMA area was full, it could have many free pages
once driver who is CMA area's owner releases the CMA area.
So, the bigger CMA space is, the bigger patch's benefit is.
And it could help memory-hotplug, too.
Signed-off-by: Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org>
---
mm/compaction.c | 12 +++++++++++-
1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/mm/compaction.c b/mm/compaction.c
index 05ccb4c..aed6c0b 100644
--- a/mm/compaction.c
+++ b/mm/compaction.c
@@ -520,8 +520,18 @@ isolate_migratepages_range(struct zone *zone, struct compact_control *cc,
goto next_pageblock;
/* Skip if free */
- if (PageBuddy(page))
+ if (PageBuddy(page)) {
+#ifdef CONFIG_MEMORY_ISOLATION
+ /*
+ * memory-hotplug and CMA already move free pages to
+ * MIGRATE_ISOLATE so we can use page_order safely
+ * without zone->lock.
+ */
+ if (PageBuddy(page))
+ low_pfn += (1 << page_order(page)) - 1;
+#endif
continue;
+ }
/*
* For async migration, also only scan in MOVABLE blocks. Async
--
1.8.3.2
> from this patch?
I have no data now but if we need it, I will try it with CMA or memory-hotplug
after return back to the office. Maybe some weeks later.
Thanks for the review, Mel!
>
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> Mel Gorman
> SUSE Labs
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Minchan Kim
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