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Message-ID: <520D547F.2060600@labri.fr>
Date:	Thu, 15 Aug 2013 18:21:51 -0400
From:	Martin Peres <martin.peres@...ri.fr>
To:	Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@...il.com>
CC:	David Airlie <airlied@...ux.ie>, dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@...cle.com>,
	Ben Skeggs <bskeggs@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: nouveau: temperature on nv40 is unavailable since ad40d73ef533ab0ad16b4a1ab2f7870c1f8ab954

On 15/08/2013 03:24, Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Thursday 15 August 2013 04:07:24 Martin Peres wrote:
>> On 14/08/2013 05:02, Pali Rohár wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 13 August 2013 15:55:28 Martin Peres wrote:
>>>> On 13/08/2013 09:53, Pali Rohár wrote:
>>>>> On utorok, 13. augusta 2013 15:32:45 CEST, Martin Peres
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 13/08/2013 09:23, Pali Rohár wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday 13 August 2013 09:01:19 Martin Peres wrote:
>>>>>>    ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can check the temperature by running nvidia-settings.
>>>>>> If you can't see the temperature in it, then nvidia
>>>>>> doesn't support it on your card and
>>>>>> I'm not sure we should :s
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the vbios you sent me in private. For the
>>>>>> others, the reason why he doesn't have temperature
>>>>>> anymore is because his vbios lacks sensor calibration
>>>>>> values.
>>>>> In nvidia-settings tab "GPU 0 - (GeForce 6600 GT)" -->
>>>>> "Thermal Settings" is:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thermal Sensor Information:
>>>>> ID: 0
>>>>> Target: GPU
>>>>> Provider: GPU Internal
>>>>> Temperature: 70 C (now)
>>>>>
>>>>> I looked in Windows program SpeedFan. It found Nvidia PCI
>>>>> card and reported "GPU Temp" about 68-70 C. So it looks
>>>>> like both nvidia driver and windows SpeedFan program
>>>>> reading same values.
>>>> Great, I'll cook you a patch in a bit and you'll see what
>>>> the temperature is like. It won't be perfectly accurate
>>>> but there is some kind of default for nvidia cards of this
>>>> generation.
>>> Ok, send me patch and I can try it if it will work and
>>> report similar values as windows or nvidia driver.
>> Sorry for the late answer.
>>
>> Please test this patch. Be aware that temperature with nouveau
>> will be higher than with the blob.
>> I only want to see if nouveau reports a temperature.
>>
>> The only way to be sure if the values are good-enough would be
>> to use the blob and run:
>> nvapeek 0x15b0
>> Please send me the result along with the temperature reported
>> by nvidia at the time of the peek.
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> PS: This patch has only be compile-tested, I don't have access
>> to an nv4x right now.
> Hello,
>
> now after patch nouveau report temperature:
>
> $ sensors
> ...
> nouveau-pci-0500
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1:        +63.0°C  (high = +95.0°C, hyst =  +3.0°C)
>                         (crit = +145.0°C, hyst =  +2.0°C)
>                         (emerg = +135.0°C, hyst =  +5.0°C)

Ok, that was expected ;)
> ...
>
> I found that nvidia binary driver has command line utility
> nvidia-smi which report same temperature as X utility nvidia-
> settings. So I will use nvidia-smi (if it is OK).
>
> And after reboot nvidia report another temperature value:
>
> $ nvidia-smi -q -d TEMPERATURE
> ...
> GPU 0000:05:00.0
>      Temperature
>          Gpu                     : 70 C
>
> Immediately I called nvapeek command:
>
> $ nvapeek 0x15b0
> 000015b0: 1000008e
>
> So value reported by nouveau is lower than value reported by
> nvidia binary driver.
As you didn't run nvapeek 15b0 when running nouveau it is hard to tell 
if it is due to
calibration values or because the temperature was lower.

Could you please read the temperature + peek 15b0 when running nouveau?

Anyway, it is weird because I cannot find 70°C with 0x8e as an input 
temperature and with
the current default values :o
> I wait some some and started nvidia-smi and nvapeek again, here
> are results:
>
> $ nvidia-smi -q -d TEMPERATURE
> ...
> GPU 0000:05:00.0
>      Temperature
>          Gpu                     : 67 C
>
> $ nvapeek 0x15b0
> 000015b0: 1000008e
>
> So it looks like that nvapeek returning always same value and
> does not depends on temperature... It is OK?
Well, it looks like the temperature reading is very noisy!
Could you please get the temperature + peek when the card is as hot as 
possible?

There is a very effective solution to get a GPU hot, use a hair drier. 
If you could get your
GPU to at 110°C (or less, if you feel like it is too much), that could 
help me check the formula
and default values.

PS: I attached a new version of the patch that should improve the 
temperature accuracy for
nv43s. Could you test it and send me your kernel log?

View attachment "0001-drm-nv40-therm-set-default-calibration-values-if-nee.patch" of type "text/x-patch" (5240 bytes)

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