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Message-ID: <1376953177.2657.33.camel@ul30vt.home>
Date:	Mon, 19 Aug 2013 16:59:37 -0600
From:	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@...hat.com>
To:	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>
Cc:	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
	"linux-pci@...r.kernel.org" <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@...r.kernel.org" <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfio-pci: PCI hot reset interface

On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 08:42 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 14:02 -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > I guess.  And supply the pci_slot rather than the pci_dev?  I'm a
> > little bit worried because the idea of a "slot" is not well-defined in
> > the spec, and we have sort of an ad hoc method of discovering and
> > managing them, e.g., acpiphp and pciehp might discover the same slot.
> > But I guess that's no reason to bury generic code in vfio.
> 
> And I don't have pci_slot's at all yet on powerpc "powernv" (the host
> platform for KVM) since at this stage we don't support physical hotplug
> on the target machines...
> 
> Alex, why specifically looking for "slots" here ? I don't quite
> understand. It makes sense to be able to reset individual devices
> whether they are on the otherboard, behind extension chassis or directly
> on slots...

a) resetting a slot may have a smaller footprint than resetting a bus,
b) hotplug controllers sometimes need to be involved in a bus reset.
For b) I have a specific example where my Lenovo S20 workstation has an
onboard tg3 NIC attached to a root port supporting pciehp (go figure
since the tg3 is soldered onto the motherboard) and doing a secondary
bus reset at the root port triggers a presence detection change and
therefore tries to do a surprise removal.  By doing a "slot" reset, I
have the hotplug controller code manage the bus reset by disabling
presence detection around the bus reset.  If you don't have slots and
you don't need anything special around a secondary bus reset, you're
fine.  It's just an opportunity to provide a hook for the hotplug
controller to participate.  Thanks,

Alex


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