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Message-ID: <20130820150425.GA27819@mudshark.cambridge.arm.com>
Date:	Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:04:25 +0100
From:	Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>
To:	Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel.garcia@...e-electrons.com>
Cc:	Matt Sealey <neko@...uhatsu.net>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Lior Amsalem <alior@...vell.com>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@...e-electrons.com>,
	Russell King <linux@....linux.org.uk>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@...edaemon.net>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>,
	Gregory Clement <gregory.clement@...e-electrons.com>,
	Sebastian Hesselbarth <sebastian.hesselbarth@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] ARM: Introduce atomic MMIO clear/set

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 03:52:00PM +0100, Ezequiel Garcia wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 09:32:13AM -0500, Matt Sealey wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Ezequiel Garcia
> > <ezequiel.garcia@...e-electrons.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 07:29:42PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > >> I suggest adding an iowmb after the writel if you really need this ordering
> > >> to be enforced (but this may have a significant performance impact,
> > >> depending on your SoC).
> > >
> > > I don't want to argue with you, given I have zero knowledge about this
> > > ordering issue. However let me ask you a question.
> > >
> > > In arch/arm/include/asm/spinlock.h I'm seeing this comment:
> > >
> > > ""ARMv6 ticket-based spin-locking.
> > > A memory barrier is required after we get a lock, and before we
> > > release it, because V6 CPUs are assumed to have weakly ordered
> > > memory.""
> > >
> > > and also:
> > >
> > > static inline void arch_spin_unlock(arch_spinlock_t *lock)
> > > {
> > >         smp_mb();
> > >         lock->tickets.owner++;
> > >         dsb_sev();
> > > }
> > >
> > > So, knowing this atomic API should work for every ARMv{N}, and not being very
> > > sure what the call to dsb_sev() does. Would you care to explain how the above
> > > is *not* enough to guarantee a memory barrier before the spin unlocking?
> > 
> > arch_spin_[un]lock as an API is not guaranteed to use a barrier before
> > or after doing anything, even if this particular implementation does.

[...]

> Of course. I agree completely.

Well, even if the barrier was guaranteed by the API, it's still not
sufficient to ensure ordering between two different memory types. For
example, on Cortex-A9 with PL310, you would also need to perform an
outer_sync() operation before the unlock.

Will
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