linux-kernel - Re: rfc: trivial patches and slow deaths?

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Message-ID: <1377036678.2016.88.camel@joe-AO722>
Date:	Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:11:18 -0700
From:	Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>
To:	Rob Landley <rob@...dley.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	kernel-janitors <kernel-janitors@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: rfc: trivial patches and slow deaths?

On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 16:49 -0500, Rob Landley wrote:
> On 08/20/2013 03:14:10 PM, Joe Perches wrote:
> > On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 15:02 -0500, Rob Landley wrote:
> > > On 08/19/2013 04:27:17 PM, Joe Perches wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 23:22 +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2013, Joe Perches wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > This is a 7 line patch that corrects logging defects that has  
> > had
> > > > no
> > > > > > reply from you for the last month.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/2833648/
> > > > >
> > > > > This hasn't missed any Linus' major release, as it has been
> > > > submitted post
> > > > > 3.11 merge, right? (hint, that was Jul 4th).
> > > > >
> > > > > If this would miss *next* major Linus' release, I would accept  
> > your
> > > > > complaints. But this is definitely not the case.
> > > >
> > > > You're suggesting this patch, which corrects obvious
> > > > defects, should miss 3.12 and go into 3.13?
> > > >
> > > > I think that's wrong.
> > >
> > > Correcting obvious defects, which can't wait a release, is "trivial"
> > > now, is it?
> > 
> > Rob, how do you suggest this obvious and trivial
> > patch be handled?
> 
> Obvious != trivial. They're orthogonal.

Silly.  Some things are both obvious _and_ trivial.

> > Send 6+ 1 line patches that do the same thing to
> > individual maintainers?
> 
> If it's important send it to Andrew Morton.

Andrew?  Do you want to handle patches for defects that
are both obvious _and_ trivial?

> If it's trivial it's not time critical. If it's time critical it's not  
> trivial.

We disagree on the definition of trivial.
Trivial can also mean simple and immediately evident.

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