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Message-ID: <20130823091128.GA19548@nazgul.tnic>
Date:	Fri, 23 Aug 2013 11:11:28 +0200
From:	Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>
To:	Vince Weaver <vince@...ter.net>
Cc:	Robert Richter <rric@...nel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...radead.org>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Robert Richter <robert.richter@...aro.org>,
	Vince Weaver <vincent.weaver@...ne.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 12/12] [RFC] perf, persistent: ioctl functions to
 control persistency

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 02:18:06PM -0400, Vince Weaver wrote:
> > PERF_EVENT_IOC_ATTACH (Since Linux 3.xx)
> > PERF_EVENT_IOC_DETACH (Since Linux 3.xx)
> 
> I think these aren't very good names for the ioctls.  Maybe something
> like
>   PERF_EVENT_IOC_MAKE_PERSISTENT
>   PERF_EVENT_IOC_UNPERSIST
> I know that last one's not a real word but I can't think of what the 
> proper term would be.  Maybe
>   PERF_EVENT_IOC_RELEASE_PERSISTENT
>   PERF_EVENT_IOC_RECLAIM_PERSISTENT

"aren't very good names" is not really an argument I can work with. Why
not? What if you want to attach/detach to events but not be persistent.
Which also begs the question how long are we persistent? The whole
system runtime or until the user decides to detach.

So ATTACH/DETACH in the sense of attaching processes to events for an
arbitrary amount of time *and* *not* for the duration of the tracee
as we do it currently implicitly, is much more generic wrt usage than
specifying that specific persistent case.

Thanks.
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