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Message-ID: <20130829111419.GA10002@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date:	Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:14:19 +0200
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Miao Xie <miaox@...fujitsu.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, riel@...hat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cpuset: mm: Reduce large amounts of memory barrier
 related damage v3

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:56:57AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > I thought it was, we crashed somewhere suspiciously close, but no. You
> > need shared mpols for this to actually trigger and the NUMA stuff
> > doesn't use that.
> > 
> 
> Ah, so this is a red herring?

Yeah, but I still think its an actual bug. It seems the easiest way to
trigger this would be to:

 create a task that constantly allocates pages
 have said task have an MPOL_INTERLEAVE task policy
 put said task into a cpuset
 using a different task (your shell for example) flip the cpuset's
   mems_allowed back and forth.

This would have the shell task constantly rebind (in two steps) our
allocating task's INTERLEAVE policy.

> > I used whatever nodemask.h did to detect end-of-bitmap and they use
> > MAX_NUMNODES. See __next_node() and for_each_node() like.
> > 
> 
> The check does prevent us going off the end of the bitmap but does not
> necessarily return an online node.

Right, but its guaranteed to return a 'valid' node. I don't think it
returning an offline node is a problem, we'll find it empty and fail the
page allocation.

> > MAX_NUMNODES doesn't assume contiguous numbers since its the actual size
> > of the bitmap, nr_online_nodes would hoever.
> > 
> 
> I intended to say nr_node_ids, the same size as buffers such as the
> task_numa_buffers. If we ever return a nid > nr_node_ids here then
> task_numa_fault would corrupt memory. However, it should be possible for
> node_weight to exceed nr_node_ids except maybe during node hot-remove so
> it's not the problem.

The nodemask situation seems somewhat more confused than the cpumask
case; how would we ever return a nid > nr_node_ids? Corrupt nodemask?

In the cpumask case we use the runtime limit nr_cpu_ids for all bitmap
operations, arguably we should make the nodemask stuff do the same.

Less bits to iterate is always good; a MAX_NUMNODES=64
(x86_64-defconfig) will still iterate all 64 bits, even though its
unlikely to have more than 1 let alone more than 8 nodes.

> > So I explicitly didn't use the node_isset() test because that's more
> > likely to trigger than the nid >= MAX_NUMNODES test. Its fine to return
> > a node that isn't actually part of the mask anymore -- a race is a race
> > anyway.
> 
> Yeah and as long as it's < nr_node_ids it should be ok within the task
> numa fault handling as well.

Right, I'm just a tad confused on how we could ever get a nid >=
nr_node_ids except from a prior bug (corrupted nodemask).
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