linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v7 1/4] spinlock: A new lockref structure for lockless update of refcount

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Message-ID: <1377830702.4028.50.camel@pasglop>
Date:	Fri, 30 Aug 2013 12:45:02 +1000
From:	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Michael Neuling <mikey@...ling.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Waiman Long <Waiman.Long@...com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@...hat.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@...e.cz>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	"Chandramouleeswaran, Aswin" <aswin@...com>,
	"Norton, Scott J" <scott.norton@...com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/4] spinlock: A new lockref structure for lockless
 update of refcount

On Thu, 2013-08-29 at 19:35 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> That said, on power, you have that "ACCESS_ONCE()" implicit in the
> *type*, not in the code, so an "arch_spinlock_t" is fundamentally
> volatile in itself. It's one of the reasons I despise "volatile":
> things like volatility are _not_ attributes of a variable or a type,
> but of the code in question. Something can be volatile in one context,
> but not in another (one context might be locked, for example).

Right, we can probably change that to use ACCESS_ONCE... volatile tend
to never quite do what you expect anyway.

Cheers,
Ben.


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