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Message-ID: <20130903021207.GA4045@leaf>
Date:	Mon, 2 Sep 2013 19:12:07 -0700
From:	Josh Triplett <josh@...htriplett.org>
To:	Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>
Cc:	Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@...el.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
	Andy Whitcroft <apw@...onical.com>,
	ksummit-2013-discuss@...ts.linuxfoundation.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <m.chehab@...sung.com>,
	Wang Shilong <wangshilong1991@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [PATCH] checkpatch: Add comment about
 updating Documentation/CodingStyle

On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 06:52:45PM -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-09-02 at 18:34 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > I'd suggest a couple more, which
> > *should* always make sense, and to the best of my knowledge don't tend
> > to generate false positives:
> > 
> > C99_COMMENTS
> 
> I don't have a problem with c99 comments.
> As far as I know, Linus doesn't either.
> 
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/4/16/473

That doesn't look like an endorsement so much as a statement that C99
comments are less awful than the net/ special-case comment style.

Documentation/CodingStyle chapter 8 says:
> Linux style for comments is the C89 "/* ... */" style.
> Don't use C99-style "// ..." comments.

If that no longer holds true, we should remove it from CodingStyle.  As
far as I know, though, it still holds.  In any case, it rarely comes up;
most kernel code doesn't use such comments.

> > CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL
> > CVS_KEYWORD
> 
> OK, but <shrug>

Sure, I don't expect them to come up often.

> > ELSE_AFTER_BRACE
> 
> I wouldn't do this one.  I think
> there are some false positives here.

Oh?  What kinds of false positives have you seen?

In any case, fair enough.

> > GLOBAL_INITIALIZERS
> > INITIALISED_STATIC
> 
> Nor these.

I don't see an obvious way for those to have false positives.  What have
you seen?

> > INVALID_UTF8
> > LINUX_VERSION_CODE
> > MISSING_EOF_NEWLINE
> 
> OK I suppose.

Not particularly critical, but uncontroversial and no false positives.

> > PREFER_SEQ_PUTS
> > PRINTK_WITHOUT_KERN_LEVEL
> 
> There are a lot of these.
> I suggest no here.

I assume the bot only applies this to new patches, not to existing code,
in which case these seem completely reasonable.  New code should follow
these, even if we don't mass-fix existing code.

> > RETURN_PARENTHESES
> > SIZEOF_PARENTHESIS
> 
> It's in coding style, but some newish patches
> do avoid them.  It's a question about how noisy
> you want your robot to be.

These two seem reasonable to enforce on new code.  I agree that they
shouldn't trigger mass cleanups of existing code.

> > SPACE_BEFORE_TAB
> > TRAILING_SEMICOLON
> > TRAILING_WHITESPACE
> > USE_DEVICE_INITCALL

I didn't see any comment from you on these four.  Thoughts?

> > USE_RELATIVE_PATH
> 
> Having checkpatch tell people how to write changelogs
> I think not a great idea.

In general, sure, but that particular one seems OK.  In any case, not
particularly critical.

> > These *ought* to make sense, but I don't know their false positive rates:
> > 
> > HEXADECIMAL_BOOLEAN_TEST
> 
> That's a good one.  0 false positives.

Ah, good.

> > ALLOC_ARRAY_ARGS
> 
> Yes, this would be reasonable too.

Excellent.

> > CONSIDER_KSTRTO
> 
> I think orobably not.  This would be a cleanup thing.

Even if applied to new code only?  New code should use the right
functions to start with.

> > CONST_STRUCT
> 
> OK

Good to know; glad to hear it doesn't have false positives.

> > SPLIT_STRING
> 
> I suggest no but <shrug>

I can easily believe that it has too many false positives.  Let's leave
that one alone for now.

- Josh Triplett
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