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Message-ID: <CAMuHMdVY4jwKJau4ZbsMW3D2KabHU8fPibgzT_-tysDdiHzCXw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 4 Sep 2013 11:02:50 +0200
From:	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>
To:	Chen Gang <gang.chen@...anux.com>
Cc:	Jiri Kosina <trivial@...nel.org>,
	Paul McKenney <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"dhowells@...hat.com" <dhowells@...hat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Dave Jones <davej@...hat.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH trivial] UAPI: Kbuild: add/modify comments for
 "uapi/Kbuild" and "uapi/linux/Kbuild"

On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Chen Gang <gang.chen@...anux.com> wrote:
> On 09/04/2013 03:02 PM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Chen Gang <gang.chen@...anux.com> wrote:
>>> On 09/04/2013 12:41 AM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Chen Gang <gang.chen@...anux.com> wrote:
>>>>> --- a/include/uapi/Kbuild
>>>>> +++ b/include/uapi/Kbuild
>>>>> @@ -1,7 +1,6 @@
>>>>>  # UAPI Header export list
>>>>> -# Top-level Makefile calls into asm-$(ARCH)
>>>>> -# List only non-arch directories below
>>>>> -
>>>>> +# Except "linux/", UAPI means Universal API.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for my silly question, but what's the purpose of this "Universal
>>>> API" comment?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Firstly, at least for me, I don't think it is a silly question (maybe
>>> it means I should give additional explanations).  :-)
>>>
>>> I 'guess' the "Universal API" means:
>>>
>>>   "the API which can be used under multiple OS (independent from Linux), it may be used under kernel mode or user mode".
>>>
>>> It is just my 'guess', welcome additional suggestions or completions by
>>> any members.
>>>
>>> When we get this correct additional explanation after discussing, if
>>> suitable, I should add the final explanation to current patch.
>>
>> Thanks. As this is not related at all to Linux, I don't see a reason
>> to add this comment.
>>
>> Here, "UAPI" means "userspace API" only.
>
> Hmm... why we need "uapi/linux/" ?  (I can not find some related
> documents, so I have to 'guess').

The "uapi" subdirectories are there to distinguish userspace headers from
kernelspace headers, and allow both to live in the kernel source tree.

When running "make headers_install", the (processed) headers in the
various "uapi" subdirectories are copied to /usr/include.
Hence "uapi/linux/foo.h" becomes <linux/foo.h> in userspace.
In userspace there are no "uapi" subdirectories anymore.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
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                                -- Linus Torvalds
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