linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] Remove support for score architecture

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Message-ID: <5226B4C7.9050509@roeck-us.net>
Date:	Tue, 03 Sep 2013 21:19:19 -0700
From:	Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>
To:	Liqin Chen <liqin299@...il.com>
CC:	Lennox Wu <lennox.wu@...il.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Jiang Liu <jiang.liu@...wei.com>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@...b.auug.org.au>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove support for score architecture

On 09/02/2013 09:54 PM, Liqin Chen wrote:
>
> 2013/9/3 Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net <mailto:linux@...ck-us.net>>
>
>     On 09/02/2013 08:18 AM, Lennox Wu wrote:
>
>         Before we start the development of the S+core, Sunplus had licensed
>         ARM and MIPS. We develop S+core for other reason such as the price.
>         Some products on the web of Sunplus adopt S+core , for example
>         the SPV7050.(http://w3.sunplus.__com/products/spv7050.asp <http://w3.sunplus.com/products/spv7050.asp>) These products
>         could still be bought from the market. Some high-end products adopt
>         ARM or MIPS. So, there is no conflict for a company adopts multiple
>         architectures.
>
>         As I said, we recognize that we rarely update because of the limited
>         applications and rare requests from customers. Maybe we don’t
>         understand the culture enough; we think that it is unnecessary if we
>         have no new bugs or new functions, the thought seems wrong. We can
>         commit some patches in the near future.
>
>
>     The point is not about submitting patches, it is about maintaining the code.
>     Even if you don't add functionality, one would expect that you ensure that
>     new kernel versions compile and run on your hardware.
>
>     Since January 2012, 68 patches have been applied to arch/score, pretty
>     much all of them addressing kernel API changes or global cleanup.
>     Only two of them got an Ack by one of the score maintainers.
>     This strongly suggests that you don't keep track of what is going on,
>     and at the very least raises the question if you do compile and test
>     new kernel versions on a regular basis. Even if you do, no one knows
>     about it, because ....
>
>     As part of this process, I would expect the architecture maintainer to
>     accept incoming patches, test the same, and send pull requests to Linus.
>     The last time this happened was early 2011; since then all score patches
>     were sent to Linus through Andrew and a few other maintainers.
>     Actually, I don't see many signoffs from a score maintainer at all,
>     even from the very beginning.
>
>     As pointed out, the MAINTAINERS entry for score points to a
>     non-existing domain, as does the e-mail address of one of the
>     maintainers.
>
>     I would not call that "maintained".
>
>
>
> Hi Al Viro, Guenter Roeck, Arnd Bergmann and all,
>
> I still supports the S+core team to maintain their codes, although I
> left sunplus co. in 2011.
>
> I keep reading the mailing list and testing these patches for S+core,
> I think the main problems are they have not echoed to any comments on
> score's questions. Maybe they think the current situation is good
> enough for their customers, and they don’t understand the rules of the
> group enough. Even so, they should update score code to the latest
> status, include my mail address.
>
> We will discuss how to maintain the code of S+core. However, if all of
> you and Linus also think the S+core should be removed from the
> upstream, we will do it.
>

Trying to build gcc for score says:

*** Configuration score-unknown-elf is obsolete.
*** Specify --enable-obsolete to build it anyway.
*** Support will be REMOVED in the next major release of GCC,
*** unless a maintainer comes forward.

That does not sound very encouraging.

Guenter

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