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Message-ID: <21040.29473.988021.228432@quad.stoffel.home>
Date:	Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:41:53 -0400
From:	"John Stoffel" <john@...ffel.org>
To:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	John Stoffel <john@...ffel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@...ux.ie>,
	Bruce Fields <bfields@...ldses.org>
Subject: Re: RIP - dead harddisk..

>>>>> "H" == H Peter Anvin <hpa@...ux.intel.com> writes:

H> On 09/10/2013 08:00 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 7:46 PM, John Stoffel <john@...ffel.org> wrote:
>>> 
Linus> The timing absolutely sucks, but it looks like the SSD in my
Linus> main workstation just died on me.
>>> 
>>> What model, if you care to share?  I figure you'r a perfect storm of
>>> SSD beating with all your compiles and git pulls, etc.
>> 
>> So I don't want to necessarily blame the harddisk, since it's just ten
>> days since I upgraded the rest of my machine, after it worked years in
>> the previous one. That just makes me go "hmm". As far as I know, all
>> the fans etc were working fine, but..
>> 
>>> And may I suggest that you get TWO of them next time and mirror them,
>>> for just this case?  The SysAdmin in my shouting out here...
>> 
>> I long ago gave up on doing backups. I have actively moved to a model
>> where I use replacable machines instead. I've got the stuff I care
>> about generally on a couple of different machines, and then keys etc
>> backed up on a separate encrypted USB key.
>> 
>> So it's inconvenient. Mainly from a timing standpoint. But nothing more.
>> 

H> I won't get any stationary machines without mirrored drives anymore.
H> Storage just isn't reliable enough.

And I won't trust a single USB thumb drive to hold my most important
stuff.  And how do you hold onto family pictures and such?  It's
amazing how much crap can accumulate, but also how important it can be
to have good backups that are remote.  If the house burns down, don't
matter how many machines the stuff is spread across if it's not local.

John


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