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Message-ID: <20130912204618.GA3262@gmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 12 Sep 2013 22:46:18 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
To:	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...stprotocols.net>
Cc:	David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] perf fixes


* Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...stprotocols.net> wrote:

> Em Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:18:55PM +0200, Ingo Molnar escreveu:
> > * David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On 9/12/13 11:43 AM, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > 
> > > > Its something that annoys me as well, but not so much as to make me 
> > > > figure out how to make those be done only if some source file changed.
> > > 
> > > Jiri and I have both taken stabs at a config-based build rather than 
> > > probing. Just need to finish it.
> > 
> > Mind outlining the approach you are thinking about?
> > 
> > Firstly, please don't even think about autotools. (Just forget it exists.)
> 
> hehe, no, that wasn't considered.

/phew! :-)

> > Secondly, the way perf tries to build by auto-detecting the build 
> > environment and auto-disabling bits it cannot build just yet is pretty 
> > powerful. The core bits will build on just about any system, and our 
> > fallbacks are really good.
> 
> That would remain as:
> 
> make -C tools/perf autoconfig
>  
> > The result is that perf will build on just about any random system, 
> > without the user having to install any dependency. It would be really 
> > sad to lose that aspect.
> 
> we will not

But it would be nice to keep building as simple as 'make'.

So I don't think splitting out the feature tests into a separate pass, to 
be done manually by the user, is a step forward.

Speeding them up by caching their results, while cleaning up the 
presentation of the testcases, on the other hand, would be a (big!) step 
forward.

Thanks,

	Ingo
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