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Message-ID: <20130913085654.GI31370@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:56:54 +0200
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, Vince Weaver <vince@...ter.net>,
Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>, acme@...radead.org,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
Stephane Eranian <eranian@...gle.com>,
torvalds@...ux-foundation.org, trinity@...r.kernel.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
Frédéric Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] tools, perf: Add a precise event qualifier v2
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 07:36:17PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > Your feature to export 'precise' requirements on events looks useful to
> > me. We could implement it not by special casing it implicitly but by
> > saying that if ../format/precise contains something like:
> >
> > attr:240-241
Since we currently have the pattern $name:bits to mean
perf_event_attr::$name the above would imply and create a possible
collision with perf_event_attr::attr.
If we're going to do this I'd propose using something like _:240-241,
for while '_' is a valid name in C its not something we're ever going to
allow in perf_event_attr.
> > then that's a natural extension of the config:X-Y format and should be
> > interpreted to mean mean 2 bits in the perf attr field. I.e. we could go
> > beyond the config bitfield.
> >
> > Basically the whole perf_event_attr can be thought of as a 'giant
> > bitfield', in which we can specify values to export an enumerated list of
> > events from the kernel to tooling.
> >
> > (Using attr:X-Y the config and config1 variants can be expressed as well,
> > as the config fields are inside the attr structure.)
> >
> > The positions within the perf_attr are an ABI, so this would work pretty
> > well.
>
> Wouldn't we need different bits for each architecture then?
> 32bit/64bit, some archs with weird alignment rules, maybe different for
> BE/LE too?
Typically PMU drivers are per arch and all the format stuff is per pmu
driver so I'd not worry about that just yet.
But yes, while the perf_event_attr thing is ABI its not identical across
archs.
> Ok I suppose it could be somehow auto generated in asm-offsets.c,
> although I'm not sure how to get a bitfield offset there.
Yes, that is an unfortunate situation. I (and either Acme or Jolsa)
tried wrapping the bitfield in an anonymous union to create a named
variable for the entire u64 but older GCC completely fails with that.
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